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Cornfed
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Why are the Koreans rich? |
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| I don't see why they should be. They don't seem to have an awful lot going for them. I suppose it must just be that the global elite wills it so. But still, why them? |
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fadedgirl
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think that they are.
Perhaps it's the electronics that they make? |
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Newbie

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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Because America and Japan wanted it to be. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| fadedgirl wrote: |
| I don't think that they are. |
They obviously are compared to what they used to be and to most other people. They're rich enought to employ us, aren't they?
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| Perhaps it's the electronics that they make? |
That invites the question of why the electronics is made here rather than elsewhere. It is not as if they invented most of it. White guys did that. They don't seem like a very inventive or thinking people to me. Also, in order to mainatain high end industries, they must be able to obtain natural resourses to feed those industries cheaply. Why should they be able to do this when they have no colonies and not much resources of their own? |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The Japanese aren't innovators but they can perfect. I don't know what the Koreans can do. Terrible management. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Cornfed wrote: |
| fadedgirl wrote: |
| I don't think that they are. |
They obviously are compared to what they used to be and to most other people. They're rich enought to employ us, aren't they?
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| Perhaps it's the electronics that they make? |
That invites the question of why the electronics is made here rather than elsewhere. It is not as if they invented most of it. White guys did that. They don't seem like a very inventive or thinking people to me. Also, in order to mainatain high end industries, they must be able to obtain natural resourses to feed those industries cheaply. Why should they be able to do this when they have no colonies and not much resources of their own? |
Well first of all just because they employ you as an ESL teacher doesn�t make them rich! You only cost them 3million won a month on average!
That�s not much!! Also it�s a business! So they get back from you as an investment...
Did you know 80% or more Koreans live off minus bank? Most Koreans are in the red, all money goes to education and living, they don�t all save a lot.., many rely on help from parents too.
Did you notice Koreans don�t take vacations like people in the west.
They don�t go out to fancy restaurants, buy boats, jet skis, holiday homes etc... Americans seem better off, because they spend more on finer things... koreans dont really... well of course the small percentage who are rich do... car or designer bag etc..
All electronics is not manufactured here! They are designed here, but made in factories in china! SK, Samsung, lg, Hyundai etc... They are power house businesses, Samsung was not a force until the early 90's before that Sony and the other Japanese companies had the market...
But Samsung spent money on distribution and got their products out there, advertising joint ventures etc... They get the raw materials made cheaper than rival brands because they buy more products. They don�t need colonies because supply and demand! They ship their cargo with Hyundai or Daewoo ships, LG buys Samsung panels, the money is all kept in the country you might say...
yes they dont event to much, but they copy and mass produce it!
All Koreans are not rich! The country is rich! And maybe 1% of the country is rich! Koreans know how to save and be frugal too,
and the governemt know how to steal off the people..
they seem rich on the outside, but the majority of the country is not RICH! Also ESL teaches only really move in circles where there is money, why would someone open a language school with a foreigner in a poor area the parents cant afford to send the children and waste 200k
You don�t see the poor Koreans, but they are out there...
Sure seems like many can afford 40hr for a private! That�s not the case
We are only dealing with a small percentage and everyone fights for that market share... |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Why are the Koreans rich? |
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| Cornfed wrote: |
| I don't see why they should be. They don't seem to have an awful lot going for them. I suppose it must just be that the global elite wills it so. But still, why them? |
You say Koreans shouldn't be rich. Then WHO should be? Whites? Blacks? Indians?
This thread is ignorant. |
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Bigfeet

Joined: 29 May 2008 Location: Grrrrr.....
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| For a 3rd world country they're rich, but they're not rich for a 1st world country. They got here because of their cheap labor but that is becoming less true every year as labor strike and demand more money. They're moving up the manufacturing ladder but China will catch up to them and Japan soon, in a generation at the most. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Why are the Koreans rich? |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
You say Koreans shouldn't be rich. Then WHO should be? Whites? Blacks? Indians?
This thread is ignorant. |
While I was reading your comment I glanced at your picture and thought you wrote "ignant" instead of "ignorant".
Man, what does that say about me...  |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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There is raw physical economic growth due to employing physical labor to build stuff that Americans used to build, but it's dependent mostly on how much more America can or will buy from Korea. If America is unemployed like it's becoming more and more, then it can't support consumerism at these levels. Becuase America is a state of agressive consumers and it's corporations outsourced manufacturing to Asians, Asian economies and new wealth has boomed in the past decade and is dependent on continued American consumerism. The American elite has taught and promoted the general public to take out debt to over consume these goods that Asia produces. This is why new wealth is happening in Korea and other Asian countries. It's a zero sum game where Americas wealth and opportunities are physically being transplanted over to Asia. American leadership literally sold it's people out. Sell outs they are.
Like America, Korea has a small upper crust that it caters to while the majority work for peanuts and live modestly. This model is the result of how America changed the world. Of course, it was similar before western manufacturing arrived in that the royalty or yangbon of a country had it all while the majority worked for peanuts and almost starved in many instances, but there never was all this wealth here of all places like you see today.
If you know anything about Korean history, yes, Korea can be considered filthy rich today, but it's a far cry from being a lap of luxory in the life of Riley. America made it so, other wise, it would be just a dirt poor 3rd world communist one Korea with little or no freedom. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Haha, well America aside, compared to many regular "Jack and Jill" citizens in Europe, Koreans seem to be pretty well off. Those in the UK either do nothing but save money in banks, or spend all their money on bills having nothing left for anything else. There is not much middle ground. Yet why is that? According to statistics, the UK folks should be better off yet aren't. Ofcourse, I'm not talking about high payed citizens here - just your regular middle class folks. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
Did you know 80% or more Koreans live off minus bank? Most Koreans are in the red, all money goes to education and living, they don�t all save a lot.., many rely on help from parents too.
Did you notice Koreans don�t take vacations like people in the west.
They don�t go out to fancy restaurants, buy boats, jet skis, holiday homes etc... Americans seem better off, because they spend more on finer things... koreans dont really... well of course the small percentage who are rich do... car or designer bag etc.. |
Actually, the savings rate in Korea is higher than that in the US. I can't be bothered finding the source, but I've read in reputable places that while it's not great, the savings rate in Korea is higher than in the US.
Also, the percentage of Koreans who travel abroad is very high. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
Did you know 80% or more Koreans live off minus bank? Most Koreans are in the red, all money goes to education and living, they don�t all save a lot.., many rely on help from parents too.
Did you notice Koreans don�t take vacations like people in the west.
They don�t go out to fancy restaurants, buy boats, jet skis, holiday homes etc... Americans seem better off, because they spend more on finer things... koreans dont really... well of course the small percentage who are rich do... car or designer bag etc.. |
Actually, the savings rate in Korea is higher than that in the US. I can't be bothered finding the source, but I've read in reputable places that while it's not great, the savings rate in Korea is higher than in the US.
Also, the percentage of Koreans who travel abroad is very high. |
IM not saying koreans dont travel! of course they do.. but just not like europeans do..
yes they save money! becuase they are frugal! thats why it doesnt show they are wealthy. I believe they save more than americans..
but still many koreans are still not rich and most koreans are a single income family..
| Bigfeet wrote: |
| For a 3rd world country they're rich, but they're not rich for a 1st world country. They got here because of their cheap labor but that is becoming less true every year as labor strike and demand more money. They're moving up the manufacturing ladder but China will catch up to them and Japan soon, in a generation at the most. |
they got here by their skills and hard work! you wouldnt know it today because the ship is sailing now so the workers sit back behind their desks and play starcraft!, but during the 60's and 70's the generation that is old now and retired WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF!!
koreans developed a lot of technology in the 80's! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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I think they're rich because their housing prices shot up. They also get a lot of help from the USA propping-up their economy. Certain people in Korea are very wealthy, because they're high-up in the Chaebols. It's the same old rich families that have been around for eons.
I'm still waiting to see if this housing bubble bursts. If it does, there are going to be a lot of divorces and fathers jumping off of buildings. |
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Konglishman

Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| This is a silly thread. Go read some history about Korea from the 60's to the 80's and I think your question will largely be answered. Sure America did its part to help support Korea, but more importantly, Korea had strong leadership that was very intent on developing the country. |
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