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Jeez testing in Korea is annoying!

 
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Jeez testing in Korea is annoying! Reply with quote

I'm responsible for 6 questions on each of the grade 1, and grade 2 midterms and finals.
One of my questions is a writing question, in which the students have to answer the question using a sentence containing, "that" or "which."

It's very simple:

A: Have you ever heard of the Jindo.

B: Of course I have.

A: Really? Tell me about it.

B: ______________________.


Now the Korean teachers are telling me that this is "very strange" because there can be so many answers. They're saying, "this is a test...there can only be one right answer!"

Of course, however, this is a language test. And, in a language, there isn't just one right answer all the time. I want the students to show me their knowledge and to show that they learned how to make a correct sentence using the structure. Annoying!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They want 1,2,3,4,5 with four wrong answers and one right one.
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Cornfed



Joined: 14 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Jeez testing in Korea is annoying! Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:
Now the Korean teachers are telling me that this is "very strange" because there can be so many answers. They're saying, "this is a test...there can only be one right answer!"

Presumably the KT's English isn't good enough to know for sure whether an ad hoc answer is right or to calculate degrees of rightness.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's simply easier to mark a multiple choice test than a freer writing exercise. When you have classes approaching 40 sts a class do you really have time to individually sift through all the students responses? Save it for smaller groups, such as at a hagwon or after school classes.
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fancypants



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A jindo is a dog. It is from Korea. It is yellow. It freezes its butt off in the winter time. It eats rancid kimchi and dog chow gruel. Its duty is to bark its head off when people walk in the road past its special jindo house. Only Koreans can own a jindo.

If you are teaching relative clauses (low intermediate level English), perhaps it would be better to just have two sentences and ask the student to combine them using a relative pronoun:

Jindos are dogs. They are from Korea.

"Jindos are dogs which/that are from Korea".
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Jeez testing in Korea is annoying! Reply with quote

Cornfed wrote:
crazy_arcade wrote:
Now the Korean teachers are telling me that this is "very strange" because there can be so many answers. They're saying, "this is a test...there can only be one right answer!"

Presumably the KT's English isn't good enough to know for sure whether an ad hoc answer is right...
Exactly.
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that guy



Joined: 29 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy-arcade wrote:
A: Have you ever heard of the Jindo.

B: Of course I have.

A: Really? Tell me about it.

B: ______________________.


Cornfed wrote:
Presumably the KT's English isn't good enough to know for sure whether an ad hoc answer is right or to calculate degrees of rightness.


If you change it to:

A: Have you ever heard of the Dokdo?

the KT's should have no problem judging whether the answer is correct or not.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had to do a question like this, I would have to mark 600 of them.

This is the main reason why Korean school students dont do writing or speaking in class, and why exams in my school are answered on computer read cards, which require multiple choice.

h
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished proofreading the Grade 1 test. Bruuuuuuuuuutal. Grammatical and usage errors on 1/3 of the questions, and improper punctuation on nearly half. This is the test, by the way, that checks grammar and usage, yet the testmaker struggles with it. I was told that he doesn't want to make any changes to the test, even though students and parents have complained about the errors before. ja4089ru3q289j0.
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mnhnhyouh wrote:
If I had to do a question like this, I would have to mark 600 of them.

This is the main reason why Korean school students dont do writing or speaking in class, and why exams in my school are answered on computer read cards, which require multiple choice.

h


Oh, we always have at least 2 or 3 short written questions.
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