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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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It's 7:30 in the morning here and Mich just took a one point lead over Wisc. I can't find the game on-line, so I'm watching the Tenn/Aub game. People might say this game is heavy on defense, but it looks like two teams who just can't pass the ball to me.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and several ranked teams have lost or are losing right now including UF who lost to Ole Miss.
UPDATE: UM beat Wisc. Tenn couldn't quite upset Auburn unfortunately.
Ranked teams beaten so far today:
#4 Florida lost to Ole Miss
#9 Wisc lost to UM
#16 Wake Forest lost to Navy
#20 Clemson lost to Maryland
#23 East Carolina lost to Houston |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| At halftime, Alabama's stomping the shit out of Georgia. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| It's 7:30 in the morning here and Mich just took a one point lead over Wisc. I can't find the game on-line, so I'm watching the Tenn/Aub game. People might say this game is heavy on defense, but it looks like two teams who just can't pass the ball to me. |
What is truly inexplicable is Tennessee refusing to make a quarterback change after 4 games in which it is abundantly (understatement) clear that your starting QB couldn't hit a barn while standing inside it. This game was the final nail in the coffin for Phil Fulmer. Good riddance. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
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| It's 7:30 in the morning here and Mich just took a one point lead over Wisc. I can't find the game on-line, so I'm watching the Tenn/Aub game. People might say this game is heavy on defense, but it looks like two teams who just can't pass the ball to me. |
What is truly inexplicable is Tennessee refusing to make a quarterback change after 4 games in which it is abundantly (understatement) clear that your starting QB couldn't hit a barn while standing inside it. This game was the final nail in the coffin for Phil Fulmer. Good riddance. |
I don't know. Did you see this in Stewart Mandel's mailbag last week?
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WOW, Stewart. There seems to be total meltdown at the University of Tennessee. The Vols did not look good on Saturday -- the players, the coaches, and more horribly, the fans, who were booing the home team and leaving in the third quarter. Does this signify the end of the Phillip Fulmer era even with the extension? Will the team quit on him or do you think he can get them to rally around this and pull off a decent season?
-- Tom Merritt, Oxford, England
This is hardly the first time Fulmer has looked down for the count -- and every time before, he's lifted himself off the mat. Just when you thought a 5-6 debacle in 2005 would do him in, Fulmer goes and rehires David Cutcliffe and improves by four wins. After Tennessee started 1-2 last year, with lopsided losses to Cal and Florida, the Vols proceeded to win eight of their next nine and reach the SEC title game. So I wouldn't go writing his obit just yet.
But it's not looking so good, either.
First off all, Tennessee lost to a really, really bad UCLA team. There's no sugar coating that one. Then against Florida, the Vols looked completely unprepared. How many times did CBS cut to the sideline after another Tennessee miscue to show Fulmer's disgusted reaction? But I was downright floored to hear sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson say Fulmer told their broadcast crew his team has "no leaders." When have you ever heard of a coach admitting that three games into the season? (On Tuesday Fulmer said: "Contrary to what some people might have said on television, we haven't had a leadership problem at all.")
But as bad as the Vols have looked, it would be very Fulmer-esque of them to go and beat Auburn this week. And as long as Tennessee finishes at least 7-5, Fulmer's job is safe. Why? Because that's pretty much what the school is paying him to do. By raising Fulmer's salary to $2.4 million last summer, Tennessee basically sent a message that it's OK with being about the sixth-best program in the SEC. How can the Vols expect to contend for SEC titles when their coach can't beat half the adversaries in his league? Take a look at the records: 0-4 against Urban Meyer, 1-4 against Nick Saban, 1-3 against Tommy Tuberville (while at Auburn), 3-4 against Mark Richt and, most infamously, 4-8 against Steve Spurrier.
But the most telling clause in that contract was the provision that automatically adds another year every time Fulmer wins eight games. What does that say about how far the standards have fallen in Knoxville? If Tennessee does in fact implode this season and finish below .500, AD Mike Hamilton may have no choice but to pull the plug (if he can scrounge up the reported $5 million buyout). But if Fulmer rallies the troops even a little bit, expect things to remain status quo.
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Would you cheer for UT to win less than 8 games to help ensure Fulmer's ouster? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there are about 3 games the rest of the season it looks like the Vols are somewhat likely to win. Assume the remaining games are losses and I think (hope) the boosters will pass the hat around and scrounge up the money.
Now, all this goes out the window if they make a change at QB, because honestly, the team itself is not bad, the play calling is not bad, and the defense has played well. Improved QB play makes the Vols 3-1 instead of 1-3.
My nightmare scenario is the second string quarterback coming in and rattling off just enough victories to secure Fulmer's job (which would be ironic because apparently Fulmer didn't think any of the younger quarterbacks were good enough to sub for Crompton in any of the losses.) |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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And the first part of my nightmare begins. Fulmer has officially "opened" the competition for starting quarterback. Hey, it's 3 and a half games too late to do any good, but it just might save his job!
In other news, I'm not at all surprised Florida lost. They're clearly not a national championship caliber team imo. Nor is Auburn, nor Georgia (no surprised by that "upset" in the slightest.)
LSU doesn't look great either. In fact, the whole SEC (except Alabama) appears to be overrated this year. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| This game was the final nail in the coffin for Phil Fulmer. Good riddance. |
What do you think about the Lane Kiffin hire? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| This game was the final nail in the coffin for Phil Fulmer. Good riddance. |
What do you think about the Lane Kiffin hire? |
Not sure at all. He recruited really well at USC, but that's not saying much since since the guys after him also recruited well.
He was their offensive coordinator in years in which they didn't win a national championship.
On the plus side, he was fired by Al Davis, which almost guarantees a great career somewhere else.
In other news, Florida obviously got a lot better as the season progressed. I'm not sure who I'd pick to win the SEC championship game right now.
And, my condolences to Texas. Gotta be tough watching two teams you beat play in the conference title game.
And finally...wow, the BCS. Working as intended. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Everybody seems to be picking Florida, but I like Bama because of Terrance Cody, the Bama secondary, and how physical Bama is at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
I don't know a lot about Kiffin, but they say he's bringing his dad and Ed Orgeron to be on his staff. I was just glad to see Phat Phil end his career on a high note and keep the streak over Kentucky alive.  |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/BCS-Realpolitik-Oklahoma-it-is-but-a-new-route?urn=ncaaf,125550
interesting article..even if florida beat bama, that might not be enough to put them above texas in the computers. |
I just read that a couple of minutes ago. IMO a team that doesn't win its conference should never leapfrog a team that does win its conference (assuming they all have the same number of losses.)
So, in addition to being unfair to Florida, it would also be unfair to Penn State and USC.
"The BCS, it just works!!!" |
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pkang0202
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| If Florida beats Bama, they will go to the championship game. The human polls will put Florida #1. |
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