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gabrielle
Joined: 28 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: Can my boss/landlord enter my flat without permission? |
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So on Friday, my boss informed me that he or the landlord may be showing up at my flat sometime this month. I will not be informed in advance. When I objected to this, my boss claimed that Korean law permitted landlords to enter tenant's residences without notice.
I find this extreamly difficult to believe. Does anyone know the anything about this? Is it legal for them to enter my flat without my permission and without notice? |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: |
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I would inform them that they better make it during daylight hours because where I come from intruders after dark may be killed.
Seriously.
They are to phone and to KNOCK first. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Can my boss/landlord enter my flat without permission? |
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gabrielle wrote: |
So on Friday, my boss informed me that he or the landlord may be showing up at my flat sometime this month. I will not be informed in advance. When I objected to this, my boss claimed that Korean law permitted landlords to enter tenant's residences without notice.
I find this extreamly difficult to believe. Does anyone know the anything about this? Is it legal for them to enter my flat without my permission and without notice? |
Spend 20k won and change your lock. Then you have no worry.
It may be illegal but YOUR chances of getting it enforced or protecting yourself from their illegal entry are about "0".
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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BTW, NO ONE SHOULD NOT ENTER YOUR APARTMENT unless you are there. There should be ZERO tolerance for this. This includes your boss and your landlord.
They are UP TO NO GOOD.
They could be trying to steal your valuables, diploma, or other documents.
If this DOES happen, you need to understand your situation. HIDE your documents and valuables, and call the police if ANYTHING is missing.
This is a sign that you are working for CROOKS.
BTW, check your next phone bill VERY carefully to make sure no one made calls and check your computer to make sure no one's been looking at "who know's what" on it.
BTW, set up a webcam or put something close to the door so any unwanted intruders spill something when they enter. Hide the towels. Suggestions? Shampoo or vegetable oil. Both make BIG messes and require someone to spend a lot of time cleaning up to cover their tracks.
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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BTW, there's a way to see who has been entering your apartment.
Tell your boss and anyone else you see that you'll be busy all day Saturday helping someone move. Tell them you won't be back until late.
Then wait in your apartment, lights out and nothing on, until the door opens.
You'll find out who's been entering your apartment.  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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I would tell them if the landlord need to enter to check something, he/she can set up a time with you when you will be there. At least that will give them a way to back down.
If they don't accept that, then tell your boss you will be showing up at his/her house unannounced and dig in his closets. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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I used to live in a place..where my landlord frequented my apartment whenever I wasn't there. It was a small town..honest friendly people. I was really bothered by it at first. He only went in to close my windows whenever it was raining though. It pissed the heck out of me. One weekend, I was out of town and it rained heavily. He didnt close the windows..guess he was out of town too. My apartment was...kinda drenched hahah so I stopped being pissed and mad about it. Nothing was ever stolen.
I'm in Seoul now..and my landlady had to drop off something for me. She tried several times but I wasn't home whenever she came around. So, she just opened the door and left it on my desk. She did call to say she came in my apt thought.
Guess I'm not bothered about it as much as I used to be. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I always change the locks. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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^Me too. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I bought one of those electronic combination locks. I never need to carry keys with me, can change the code anytime, and it was only 100,000 won (including installation). |
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EzeWong

Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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wylies99 wrote: |
BTW, there's a way to see who has been entering your apartment.
Tell your boss and anyone else you see that you'll be busy all day Saturday helping someone move. Tell them you won't be back until late.
Then wait in your apartment, lights out and nothing on, until the door opens.
You'll find out who's been entering your apartment.  |
... Not exactly how I'd want to spend my saturday nights lmfao....
I don't know, I find the people here overall trustworthy... Yeah I'd be pretty annoyed if I found my landlord going through my stuff and inspecting the place... however "out of sight, out of mind", if I'm out of the house, he can ravage my underwear as much as he like.
Personally, I don't think the landlord is going to steal anything. I don't know many landlords that steal from their own tennants... They'd risk reputation. Whatever they could steal isn't worth the rent revenue of the building. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone considered the fact that the boss is the legal tenant since they are the ones paying and have their names on the lease? If they are renting the place, I don't think they would have any problems about entering the apartment that THEY are paying for and THEY are responsible for.
Having said that, they shouldn't just enter the apartment without you there and/or letting you know in advance. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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kprrok wrote: |
Has anyone considered the fact that the boss is the legal tenant since they are the ones paying and have their names on the lease? If they are renting the place, I don't think they would have any problems about entering the apartment that THEY are paying for and THEY are responsible for.
Having said that, they shouldn't just enter the apartment without you there and/or letting you know in advance. |
One word = sublet.... and there is a lease (it is part of your contractual remuneration).
They cannot LEGALLY enter without your permission (unless there is some emergency like a fire)
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Getting the law enforced should your employer or landlord enter illegally is another matter.
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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It's quite common in Korea for landlords to just enter, sometimes without even knocking. It's also common for there to be 2 deadbolt locks on the door and you only have the key to one. The landlords have too much power in Korea and the people are tolerant of this behavior. It makes me upset when they just come waltzing in and expect me to know what in the hell they are saying. Landlords can be total idiotic jerks. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
One word = sublet.... and there is a lease (it is part of your contractual remuneration).
They cannot LEGALLY enter without your permission (unless there is some emergency like a fire)
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Getting the law enforced should your employer or landlord enter illegally is another matter. |
Would the contractual offer of an apartment be considered a sublet? I had thought about that, but didn't think it would. I guess it could be, but here in Korea, what are the laws regarding sublets? |
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