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MA_TESOL

Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: Question for the Ladies |
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in a bar situation do like it when men offer to buy you a drink? Is it flatterring or annoying? Do you prefer the guy to be handsome but cocky or average with a nice personality?
Do you ever want to just relax and not be hassled by all us jerks or do you want the attention?
I know these are general questions, everybody is different and we all get in different moods. I guess my question is: to you when are these men annoying jerks and when are they a pleasant addition to your evening. |
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maeil
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Location: Haebangchon
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Here's my opinion.
I think it's important for guys to pick up on the clues that the women in question are giving. I know that this is an age-old conundrum between the sexes, but really, it isn't too hard. Awkward situations can be avoided in the first few minutes.
If the woman isn't looking directly at you, her smiles are fleeting, or she seems similarly distracted: she's not interested but she's trying not to be rude. She might be in a relationship and doesn't know how to work that into the conversation, she might be on a girl's night out, or she just might not be into you.
If the woman is engaged and friendly, then by all means offer to buy her a drink when she runs out of hers. Please don't use a drink in the same manner some guys use a pick-up line, though. Establish some sort of conversation first to gauge what her response might be. If she refuses the drink, one offer is enough. You don't have to push the issue.
A whole lot depends on the manner in which a guy approaches. If he comes up to me with an obvious, "Hey baby" sort of attitude... big turn off. If he starts talking about the music or something else about the evening in a friendly, non-aggressive way, then that opens the door to further conversation.
But like you say.. all women are different. Just relating my experience with this one. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: |
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"I have a boyfriend" means "I don't have a boyfriend, I just want you to go away". |
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ciccone_youth

Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: |
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maeil wrote: |
Here's my opinion.
I think it's important for guys to pick up on the clues that the women in question are giving. I know that this is an age-old conundrum between the sexes, but really, it isn't too hard. Awkward situations can be avoided in the first few minutes.
If the woman isn't looking directly at you, her smiles are fleeting, or she seems similarly distracted: she's not interested but she's trying not to be rude. She might be in a relationship and doesn't know how to work that into the conversation, she might be on a girl's night out, or she just might not be into you.
If the woman is engaged and friendly, then by all means offer to buy her a drink when she runs out of hers. Please don't use a drink in the same manner some guys use a pick-up line, though. Establish some sort of conversation first to gauge what her response might be. If she refuses the drink, one offer is enough. You don't have to push the issue.
A whole lot depends on the manner in which a guy approaches. If he comes up to me with an obvious, "Hey baby" sort of attitude... big turn off. If he starts talking about the music or something else about the evening in a friendly, non-aggressive way, then that opens the door to further conversation.
But like you say.. all women are different. Just relating my experience with this one. |
I agree with everything Maeil said, I feel the same way.
And right now I'm in a relationship, so even though the guy is attractive and seems to have a good personality, well, I do have a boyfriend so I don't want to lead him on. |
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maeil
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Location: Haebangchon
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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ciccone_youth wrote: |
maeil wrote: |
Here's my opinion.
I think it's important for guys to pick up on the clues that the women in question are giving. I know that this is an age-old conundrum between the sexes, but really, it isn't too hard. Awkward situations can be avoided in the first few minutes.
If the woman isn't looking directly at you, her smiles are fleeting, or she seems similarly distracted: she's not interested but she's trying not to be rude. She might be in a relationship and doesn't know how to work that into the conversation, she might be on a girl's night out, or she just might not be into you.
If the woman is engaged and friendly, then by all means offer to buy her a drink when she runs out of hers. Please don't use a drink in the same manner some guys use a pick-up line, though. Establish some sort of conversation first to gauge what her response might be. If she refuses the drink, one offer is enough. You don't have to push the issue.
A whole lot depends on the manner in which a guy approaches. If he comes up to me with an obvious, "Hey baby" sort of attitude... big turn off. If he starts talking about the music or something else about the evening in a friendly, non-aggressive way, then that opens the door to further conversation.
But like you say.. all women are different. Just relating my experience with this one. |
I agree with everything Maeil said, I feel the same way.
And right now I'm in a relationship, so even though the guy is attractive and seems to have a good personality, well, I do have a boyfriend so I don't want to lead him on. |
Right.. my husband and I have different tastes in music, so we often go out to different clubs on weekends. I am perfectly open to making new male friends, so the guys I usually end up talking to in bars or clubs are the ones that approach me (or that I approach) as a potential friend, not as a potential lay. |
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sarahbeara_413
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Question for the Ladies |
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MA_TESOL wrote: |
in a bar situation do like it when men offer to buy you a drink? Is it flatterring or annoying? Do you prefer the guy to be handsome but cocky or average with a nice personality?
Do you ever want to just relax and not be hassled by all us jerks or do you want the attention?
I know these are general questions, everybody is different and we all get in different moods. I guess my question is: to you when are these men annoying jerks and when are they a pleasant addition to your evening. |
Hello fellow SJSU alum, when did graduate? I just finished in may...
To answer your question, it varies from night to night. If it looks like i'm sitting there engaged in a deep conversation with some friends, then it would be considered rude to interrupt. If it looks like i'm bored or just having a casual night with friends, feel free to introduce yourself. Buy me a drink or don't buy me a drink, it doesn't matter much to me. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Men are socially retarded.
Best bet:
Make eye contact a time or two (not by staring or gawking, but casual).
Give and get a smile (not a leer).
Then you're good to approach and offer to buy a drink. |
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EricaSmile84

Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah wait until you feel like things are going ok before you offer to buy a drink. If that's the 1st thing that comes out of your mouth, there are high chances that the girl will accept the drink just so she doesn't have to use her own money--- NOT because she likes you. Once you give her the drink, she could very well say "thanks" and walk away. Some guys assume that if they buy a girl a drink then she owes him her time, which she doesn't (and she won't give it to you if she's daring enough). So basically, wait till it feels right and don't get discouraged by the meanies out there who are playing their own little games. |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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This is the coolest situation:
If you see a girl sitting at the bar alone, buy her a drink but get the waitress to give it to her and let her know you bought it. If she's interested/available she'll come over and say hey thanks (we're talking westerners here, I don't know K women) ..... If she's busy or whatever and she doesn't come up and talk to you then let it go.
This way the girl is in complete control. She doesn't feel like she has to talk to you and you don't look like you're desperate. It's kind of like, by giving the chick all the power, you seem cool and confident. |
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