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JustJohn
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| I wouldn't advise skimping too much on the PSU. You won't need a 600w zalman unless you're planning on adding in a bunch of drives and other power suckers. However, a generic 450w is likely to have very low amps especially on the 12v rail which could lead to system instability running a current generation (ie: power hungry) video card. If you have the time you should read up on what makes a good power supply and get a 450w with decent ratings. What you're looking for will most likely cost around 60k won unless you get a good deal. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| If you are really serious about computer gaming then you should simply buy the individual computer parts yourself and build the computer yourself. It's so easy to build a computer yourself, you just have to invest the time into learning about what you have to do. |
This is true. Modern ATX computer parts go together as easy as lego. There are lots of tutorials on Youtube and other websites. It really is easy.
Of course, things can go wrong........
Novice builder downfalls.....
1. The motherboard you chose may not support the CPU, RAM or graphics card you chose. Before you buy a motherboard, research what it can can support.
2. The motherboard BIOS may need updated to support newer CPU's. This can be tricky for the novice. As a general rule, be sure that your motherboard was released after your CPU was. Then it should support it.
3. Too much thermal grease on the CPU. Apply too much of this and it can have the opposite effect, i.e. insulating instead of cooling. Wafer-thin is key.
There's more if anyone wants to add something. |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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Hey ttompatz, where is J-tech located in Seoun-in plaza? I think I'll go check them out when I'm finally ready to buy a computer. So, I can just take in a list of what I want and they will build it for me? I took your advice and changed some of the specs on the build, what do you think?
CPU: Intel E8500: 210,000 (the price went up from 200,000)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP-35-DS3L: 110,000 (the Asus P5KC only had 6 vendors so I picked another motherboard. Is this one anygood?)
RAM: Samsung DDR2 2GB PC2-6400: 32,000 x2: 64,000 (I know that a 32 bit can only address a little over 3 gigs, but I figured it was so cheap that I might as well get 4 gigs.)
Video card: Gigabyte 9600 GT 512mb: 134,000 (I wanted something better than the 8600, but like ttompatz said I won't need the 4870)
ODD: LG Multidrive: 29,000
HD: WD SATA2 640 GB: 77,000 (I figured this should be enough and adding another one shouldn't be that hard if I needed more HD space.)
PSU: AONE 450GW Dual v2.2: 37,000 (Need to look in on this, just picked one that had lots of sellers  )
Case: Asus Vento TM-B22: 36,000 (Thought this one looked nice and sleek.  )
Monitor: Topsync OR2405WC: 349,000 (I remember reading good things about Topsync on the forum.)
This brings me to a little over 1 million won. Throw in a card reader, cpu fan, keyboard, mouse and cost to build it should bring me pretty close to my budget.
Will the vendors install a Korean version of Vista for free? I don't care if its legit or not. I figured I could use that windows vistalizator that was mentioned in the sticky to get the language changed to English. |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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Don't buy the Vento.. Its shit. Its very heavy, its cramped beyond belief. Barely takes a full atx board. Very difficult to work with. Front cover is difficult to open and close. The paneling is a bitch to put on.
The case is worse then garbage. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| tired of LA wrote: |
Hey ttompatz, where is J-tech located in Seoun-in plaza? I think I'll go check them out when I'm finally ready to buy a computer. So, I can just take in a list of what I want and they will build it for me? I took your advice and changed some of the specs on the build, what do you think? |
If you are at the street doors to the Seon-in plaza (the building with the Gigabyte sign) you will see 2 doors. Walk in the one on the left.
Go down the hall and turn right at the end. It is the 1st place on your right hand side AFTER the turn. It has a red sign with white lettering over the storefront.
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm77/ttompatz/DSCI0001.jpg is the sign above the store. It is always that busy. The guys who do the system builds are at the desks (with the chairs) in the center of the store.
Accessories are on the right and hardware is on the left (looking into the store).
You will see a stack of computer cases in front of the desks. Pick the one you want.
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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That cpu cooler looks like a beast. But do I really need a cpu fan that costs 79,000 won? Adding that to my computer would most likely put me over my budget. I'll probably leave the decision on the cpu fan up to the tech guy who builds my computer.
As for the case, I'll probably do what ttompatz said and pick one that they have when I'm at Yongsan.
The Zalman PSU is definetly better than the AONE one, but its also more than twice as much. If I have a bigger budget, I would definitely go all out. But I'm trying to do this on 1.2 million max.
Thanks ttompatz for the directions and Temporary for the heads up on the case. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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A cool cpu is a happier one.  |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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are you ocing? if no then spliff can attach it to his ass and cool the hot foul gas coming out of it.
Also if you use the Vento case you wouldn't be able to close the case. |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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are you ocing? if no then spliff can attach it to his ass and cool the hot foul gas coming out of it.
Also if you use the Vento case you wouldn't be able to close the case. |
yeah, i'm not planning on overclocking. wouldn't know how even if i wanted to. so i'm just going to stick with the stock fan.
now the only question i have now is, is it worth getting the p45 chipset mobo over the p35 so i can get the pcie2? will it make much of a difference? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Yes, for the future upgrade. |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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| my last question question isn't about the build, but rather how the prices at yongsan compare to the lowest prices i find on danawa? will the vendors usually match the lowest prices on danawa or am i hoping for too much? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| my last question question isn't about the build, but rather how the prices at yongsan compare to the lowest prices i find on danawa? will the vendors usually match the lowest prices on danawa or am i hoping for too much? |
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It often depends on where you go, who you talk to and whether you are using your card or cash.
I have personally found that I can usually get the Danawa price (or very close to it) without too much haggling (or none at all) over at the Seon-in plaza.
You will almost NEVER get pricing like that in the I'Park mall (the one above Yongsan station). Prices are often as much as 30% higher that the best Danawa pricing.
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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Thanks for all the advice from everyone. I bought my computer online and received it Friday.
Here are the specs:
CPU: Intel E8400
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L
RAM: Samsung 2GB PCS-6400 (x2)
VGA: Asus 9600GT 512MB
ODD: LG DVD Multi w/ lightscribe
HD: WD 640 GB
Case: Skydigital Blackburn
PSU: Skydigital PS2-450EF 80PLUS
Keyboard and Mouse: Logitech G1 Gaming Desktop
Speakers: Logitech X-230
Monitor: Topsync 2405 TV
Card reader
All in all, it put me a bit over my budget by about 75,000W. I know I could've done it for much cheaper, but I figured with the tanking won I still got a good deal.
Now I'm really happy with the computer, but I noticed the monitor has 1 dead pixel. It doesn't really bother me, but I splurged on the monitor so I want one with no dead pixels. Now I had my girlfriend call the guy who built my comp, but all he said was that he will call the manufacturer. So, should insist on the guy replacing my monitor, or is this something that the manufacturer should deal with since it comes with a 3 year warranty? |
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