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FistFace



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: A friend in need Reply with quote

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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks. But you did the right thing, don't let any one persuade you otherwise. You wife is being terribly unreasonable.

My wife had a male friend who called her up late one night sobbing...he had just been through a breakup and was in a bad place. I told my wife she should go talk to him and keep him company so he wouldn't do something stupid. That's just common human decency. Which frankly, your wife seems to lack.

Let her pout. Taking care of your fellow brothers and sisters on this planet is not something you need to apologize for or feel bad about.

And in the future...minimize contact with your drama queen friend. Stop taking her calls or answering her texts. She makes trouble to get attention, and you really don't need her in your life. Anything that causes trouble between you and the most important relationship in your life has outlived it's usefulness.
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yawarakaijin



Joined: 08 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a story. While I can't ever admit to being in such a possibly serious situation the stuff about the wife is very familiar indeed. Probably the only real serious relationship issue I have ever had with an asian women. Never dated a Korean for an extended period of time but I can tell you that Japanese women are they exact same way.

The "you should understand how I feel if you love me routine" never seems to get old. Surely men are capable of understading how their wife feels if she just lost her grandfather or her dog but I will never understand how we are simply supposed to "understand" them during each and every encounter no matter how serious or trivial.

The line about life not having to be a soap opera is spot on as well. Seemed like every really serious relationship I've gotten into with an asian girl has taken on this aura. Dating was just fine, but when it got serious it was like the suddenly/desperately start trying to mirror what they see on tv or "how their parents do it" I just love it how we are "exotic" and "interesting" when dating but when things get serious (marriage/engagement) we suddenly "don't understand their ways."

I feel for you man. You are definitely not alone in what you are going through/went through.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband would probably react the same as your wife. I wouldn't be able to stay away from someone who asks for my help and my husband would say that it is none of my business.

Tell her that she was right (this time) but you would probably do the same thing next time. You can't change who you are and you will always help someone in need. Label this fight as 'cultural differences'. And then change your phone number so that this other lady will never be in a position to manipulate you again.
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FMPJ



Joined: 03 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixed

Juregen wrote:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, won't get fooled again.
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Kimbop



Joined: 31 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry fistface, but you exhibited bad judgment. Your wife has every reason to be angry with you. Let the police/social services worry about weirdos -- it's not your job. If the weirdo really wanted to kill herself, she would have hurled herself from a 9-storey building. Why would she call YOU? Why would the police want you there?

Apologize to your wife.

The next time a weirdo phones you, hang up. That's what I do to weirdos. They call me all the time.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
That sucks. But you did the right thing, don't let any one persuade you otherwise. You wife is being terribly unreasonable.

My wife had a male friend who called her up late one night sobbing...he had just been through a breakup and was in a bad place. I told my wife she should go talk to him and keep him company so he wouldn't do something stupid. That's just common human decency. Which frankly, your wife seems to lack.

Let her pout. Taking care of your fellow brothers and sisters on this planet is not something you need to apologize for or feel bad about.

And in the future...minimize contact with your drama queen friend. Stop taking her calls or answering her texts. She makes trouble to get attention, and you really don't need her in your life. Anything that causes trouble between you and the most important relationship in your life has outlived it's usefulness.


I agree with every word.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn off your phone, that's what I do.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you Korean? Is your wife Korean? I smell cultural differences here if you're a waygook or American-raised gyopo and she is Korean. If that is the case, you should have listened to your wife. You should at least be very aware of how it all looks to her and thereby refrain from terms like "heartless and selfish" to describe your wife.

The Western hero in you was blind to the - at least potential - subtext. If you were aware that the suicide call was a 'cry for help' then why didn't you cease and desist your mission once the police arrived? You say you were just following what the police requested but - at that very point - with you knowing your wife's concern, you should have turned around.

Apologize to your wife for (a) not trying to understand her perspective; (b) for your ignorance of the subtext or cultural misunderstanding if your wife is Korean and (c) for not trusting your wife's judgement on the matter.
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
That sucks. But you did the right thing, don't let any one persuade you otherwise. You wife is being terribly unreasonable.


Is she? The guy's sharing details of his private life and marriage with a woman he barely knows. Does the wife know about these coffee meetups and monthly texts? That's just begg'n for trouble.

Suddenly she cries help? Sorry, domestic disputes OF ANY KIND should be handled by professionals or family.

OP needs to do some serious marriage mending and kissing up. Maybe trip to Jeju.

I also side with kimbop on this one.
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FistFace



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FistFace



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FistFace



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FistFace wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
If you were aware that the suicide call was a 'cry for help' then why didn't you cease and desist your mission once the police arrived?


Probably because they called me twice and asked me to come?

Do ya think?

I was en-route when I found out that the police came. As far as I could tell, they weren't coming. Then, when I suddenly found out that they had come, they kept calling me expecting me to show.

Please read more carefully next time.

Who isn't reading carefully!

I wrote:

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If you were aware that the suicide call was a 'cry for help' then why didn't you cease and desist your mission once the police arrived? You say you were just following what the police requested but - at that very point - with you knowing your wife's concern, you should have turned around.

I just don't understand your overdeference to the police in this matter. Smells like an excuse unless you have reason to fear. Did you think the police might arrest you if you didn't go.

Did you read what I wrote afterwards about your wife?


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