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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Hater Depot wrote:
...and Congress will be sure to go back to the drawing board.


I am not certain that anything substantial will occur before November. Partisanship and recrimination are dominating this process now. I know academics on campus who are publicly -- that is, openly advising their classes -- that this entire thing is a neocon conspiracy to establish fascism and that they should all urge their legislators to reject any such plan to deal with this so-called crisis, or "this very convenient 'crisis,'" as one has explained to me. Some are complaining and administrators are in turn sending out existing policy statements about using classrooms and university time and resources to engage in politics to no avail.

Getting ugly all around.


Yikes. The only commentary I've heard about it on my campus is my finance professor said today that the crisis was "due to two things: bad incentives and ignorance/stupidity." He didn't comment on the proposed bail-out but that might have been because it had been rejected by the time class began.

Oh, and if history is any indication, "Main St" will be hit by this eventually.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is true. And today they began dropping Naomi Klein's name and book.

Without getting into too much detail, my/our state is dealing with budgetary issues, and people at my level are getting excited, and predicting the end of our department in staff meetings, in seminars, and the classroom. I kid you not; I am not with them; but they truly seem to believe this. They are linking this with the national economy and are now predicting the end of our little corner of the world. And at times it is impossible to tell if they are discussing this state's particular issues, or whether they are using this state's issues and their impact on the university system as a device to show their cleverness and push their politics re: the W. Bush Administration, or what. It has become beyond confused via excessive hyperbole and I have simply withdrawn from the discussion. I am not alone in doing so.

You are probably not experiencing this because you are, I believe in a new-style, post-Cold War, area-studies dept. "The Pacific," no? Others include "the Med" and "the Indian Ocean World." Note the are transnational and water-centric. In any case, these programs are not on the chopping block. But the older social sciences -- save the critically-relevant Near-Eastern Studies area-studies depts. -- are.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, certainly the case. I imagine if I had any interaction with my university's lit. dept (apparently very Marxist) I would encounter some of the behavior you described.

Naomi Klein. Laughing
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They ought to relax. History has been with us since Herodotus and Thucydides. We are not going anywhere. But I must admit I would not shed a single tear if the administration axed Psychology and Sociology -- or merged Geography into History, either.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:


Naomi Klein. Laughing


You Americans are welcome to keep her. But she is a twofer. Avi Lewis, her Al Jazeera correspondent husband I donate to Uncle Sam too.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You disagree with her, Mises?
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, she's nuts. I've posted 3 threads about her recently (2 months or so). Her latest book is the worst I've read this year and I'm a book worm. It was taken down and torn apart by the Swedish economist Johan Norberg in a way I've never seen a mainstream book before. No Logo was a rant without a purpose, center or argument. She can be useful in short investigative pieces, such as a recent one on the surveillance society China is building.

We Canadians have been dealing with her nutty participation on every uni seminar and the like for a long, long time.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=123194&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=norberg&start=0
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