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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| By the way, apparently North Korea grows a lot of the stuff. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| By the way, apparently North Korea grows a lot of the stuff. |
Hemp, not marijuana.
They use industrial hemp for a lot of things. While North Korea is also heavily involved in the illicet drug game, I think they are more involved with pills as opposed to herbs. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| By the way, apparently North Korea grows a lot of the stuff. |
Hemp, not marijuana.
They use industrial hemp for a lot of things. While North Korea is also heavily involved in the illicet drug game, I think they are more involved with pills as opposed to herbs. |
Alright, they grow hemp, of which a decent amount is used for smoking. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| You CANNOT smoke hemp. I haven't wikied it but I know it will prove me right. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Rusty Shackleford is correct RACETRAITOR, you can't get high on hemp.
It's sister variety known as cannibus or marijuana, you can certainly get high off of. Or so I've heard  |
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Yangachi

Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Pills create happiness! |
Taking ecstasy leads to feelings of euphoria lasting a few hours, followed by a grinding comedown, characterised by feelings of depression and worthlessness, to be more precise. I have seen the results of long-term pill usage. Not pretty. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
Rusty Shackleford is correct RACETRAITOR, you can't get high on hemp.
It's sister variety known as cannibus or marijuana, you can certainly get high off of. Or so I've heard  |
Alright, I'm not a farmer. They grow hemp as well as marijuana, or cannabis, or whatever you call it, and it's comparatively easy to get your hands on weed in North Korea. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
Rusty Shackleford is correct RACETRAITOR, you can't get high on hemp.
It's sister variety known as cannibus or marijuana, you can certainly get high off of. Or so I've heard  |
Alright, I'm not a farmer. They grow hemp as well as marijuana, or cannabis, or whatever you call it, and it's comparatively easy to get your hands on weed in North Korea. |
Hemp yes, marijuana no.
They're not getting high in Pyongyang.
And it's not comparibly easy to get your hands on hemp in North Korean. It's a heavily controlled state, remember, and hemp production (paper, ropes, food, ect..) is an important part of the nations internal economy.
The free market in North Korea is still very minor (but growing). |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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How is selling drugs to people a good thing? I am not sure that selling ecstasy to anyone is a good thing. There are health risks. Alcohol is bad enough as it is. I can maybe understand the idea of legalizing drugs in the U.S. in order to weaken the gags and get people who are in trouble with drugs to get help. That would make sense. |
Are prescription drugs doctors prescribing a good thing??
If we are talking about the possibility of dependency and addiction... then yes of course it�s a bad thing in the wrong hands
If you mean liver and kidney failure... well we need to take 50% of the products off the shelf out there then
I don�t need to talk about alcohol and tobacco...
Drugs use with mature and sensible users is ok in my opinion...
I mean we survived the 60's and now all those people are running the fortune 500 companies and running the world
If there is alcohol then there needs to be legalized Ecstasy. It can in no way be worse for you or your families like booze is
Download a documentary called
HOOKED: Illegal drugs and how they got that way
Its an eye opener.. when all the drugs were legal they were bottled marketed, sold etc..
People had parties for these drugs.
In Dallas in the 80�s when X was legal. There were E bars, they would sell E over the bar in a cup! |
We are talking about serious health effects associated with said drugs.
Alcohol is bad enough as it is. I am not putting marijuana in the same category as the corrupted form of the coca plant i.e. cocaine.
I am not saying we should keep drug use illegal. However, I think drug use has been on the rise due to cultural problems in many modern countries. Instead of advocating for more of it, why not advocate a culture that uses less of it. Again, I don't think marijuana has the same effect as cocaine or crack. It's quite different. Plenty of studies have shown that ecstasy can cause permanent damage to your brain.
Why advocate something that would harm other people? |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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More people die from Asprin every yeat that they do from X overdoses.
Anyways, if E was legal, it could be regulated and people would only recieve good grade stuff.
No extra additives. |
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PaperTiger

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: Ulaanbataar
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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The mechanism of MDMA's unusual effects has yet to be fully understood, although it is generally thought that the primary relevant pharmacological characteristic of the drug is its affinity for SERTs. SERTs are the part of the serotonergic neuron which remove serotonin from the synapse to be recycled or stored for later use. Not only does MDMA inhibit the reuptake of serotonin into this pump, but it reverses the action of the transporter so that it begins pumping serotonin into the synapse from inside the cell.[32] In addition, MDMA induces the release of norepinephrine and dopamine.[33]
It seems like the way it works is that it forces a large release of serotonin and that prolonged use tends to hamper your brain's ability to produce serotonin. You need serotonin to be happy. The drug also has been linked to releasing the hormone oxytocin which is what allows people this false sense of closeness and intimacy...which is often shattered when you come down and realize it all completely fake and superficial.
You'd have to be high to think that drugs somehow promote happiness, or just plain stupid...or you've simply never done drugs. If you become reliant on some item or drug to be happy your life will become addled, depressing, and empty. Maybe Nancy Reagan was so against drugs, because...from her own personal experience she knew how they could leach happiness from your life once they became an ingrained habit.
Drugs are illegal because not everyone has the restraint to keep drugs simply as an occasional recreation and not everyone is willing to chalk up the deaths and social problems that arise out of habitual drug use as social Darwinism at work. It's a pity that alcohol is not viewed the same way, since some illegal plants and fungi are by far less dangerous (but again, not so much from their potential to inspire habitual use/abuse).
This country would crumble quick-style if they developed a serious drug problem. |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I know a Korean guy who took a bunch of drugs back in middle/high school. He said he's clean now. When I said I was surprised because I'd heard how low Korea's drug use is, he kind of laughed and said, "If you know where to find it...it's definitely there." |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
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Rusty Shackleford is correct RACETRAITOR, you can't get high on hemp.
It's sister variety known as cannibus or marijuana, you can certainly get high off of. Or so I've heard  |
Alright, I'm not a farmer. They grow hemp as well as marijuana, or cannabis, or whatever you call it, and it's comparatively easy to get your hands on weed in North Korea. |
Hemp yes, marijuana no.
They're not getting high in Pyongyang.
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I hear otherwise, although maybe it's more available to visiting foreigners than to North Korean civilians. |
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rumdiary

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
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| endo wrote: |
Rusty Shackleford is correct RACETRAITOR, you can't get high on hemp.
It's sister variety known as cannibus or marijuana, you can certainly get high off of. Or so I've heard  |
Alright, I'm not a farmer. They grow hemp as well as marijuana, or cannabis, or whatever you call it, and it's comparatively easy to get your hands on weed in North Korea. |
Hemp yes, marijuana no.
They're not getting high in Pyongyang.
And it's not comparibly easy to get your hands on hemp in North Korean. It's a heavily controlled state, remember, and hemp production (paper, ropes, food, ect..) is an important part of the nations internal economy.
The free market in North Korea is still very minor (but growing). |
Who would want to get stoned and then not have anything to eat when the munchies hit? |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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When I head back to Canada, I'm going to light up and then hit a kalbi restaurant.
It's going to be awesome!  |
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