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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: Where do you have YOUR money? |
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With all we have been hearing about fiat money becoming worthless, this question is primarily for mises and ontheway and anyone else who may have a bead on what is going on.
I am guessing your primary investments right now are gold and silver. I'd like more detail, such as physical metal vs. "paper" metal (stored at a commercial facility) vs. mining stocks, etc.
What do you recommend for a struggling English teacher? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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On good authority, I have it that ontheway converted his savings into bags of rice which he has buried on a mountain-side 7 steps east of a particular tree. The fortune-teller promised, for a fee, that the hex she placed on the rice will keep the wild critters away.
Unfortunately, you can't check with her right now. She is on an extended vacation on Jeju-do. |
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newteacher

Joined: 31 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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I put all mine in this internet company called Pets.com. They have a cool sock puppet spokesperson. I think it's a smart move. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Mine's stuffed into my mattress and the cracks in the walls. You can't trust the banks!  |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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This topic was raised earlier and I stated then that gold and silver are NOT good investments for the same reason that they ARE good money.
Gold retains its purchasing power over long periods of time and in fact, gold has retained its purchasing power at nearly a constant level for thousands of years. Gold neither gains nor loses value over long periods of time.
The fluctuations we see in the price of gold actually represents volatility in the value of the dollar and other currencies.
You can speculate on these fluctuations of course, but I believe in investing.
I also explained earlier that I have invested by holding majority stakes in certain privately held, debt free businesses in markets that should continue to grow through a recession, and if necessary, survive a depression without accounting losses.
In addition to growing these businesses with internally generated cash, I invest any cash that I might take out my businesses in real estate which I also hold debt free, except for temporary loans as necessary at the time of purchase to hold the property for a short period of days or weeks until I can buy the entire property mortgage free.
Right now I'm thinking farm land in certain areas of the US. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
On good authority, I have it that ontheway converted his savings into bags of rice |
I personally know of several Asian based economic forecasters who are actually doing this. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I personally know of several Asian based economic forecasters who are actually doing this. |
Oh my.
I hope they have some good mousers to protect the rice from rats. Don't know what to suggest for the bugs. A giant can of Raid? |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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I personally know of several Asian based economic forecasters who are actually doing this. |
Oh my.
I hope they have some good mousers to protect the rice from rats. Don't know what to suggest for the bugs. A giant can of Raid? |
It's probably not actual physical rice. Options are more likely. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps buying gold jewellry such as gold chains with links of a standard weight would be the idea. If things get much worse, gold bullion is likely to be confiscated, as it was in the 30s. |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Location: The Chicken Coop
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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1. Put my money into purchasing an apartment (90% appreciation after 4 years)
2. Banks
3. Oil Stocks
Chicken |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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TheChickenLover wrote: |
1. Put my money into purchasing an apartment (90% appreciation after 4 years)
2. Banks
3. Oil Stocks
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Not to be a *beep*, but if your apartment is in Seoul/ROK, what do you think the depreciation will be over the next 4 years? Wait, you're investing in housing, financials and energy? |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have a debt free home in Canada and 150 grand tied up in key money. I think about bailing every day.
The apartment situation is getting serious. In Gagnam housing prices are plummeting. Also, in Songdo, houses which were going for about 550 million last year are selling for around 400 million won now. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Korea will have a very serious housing crash. It will be epic. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I agree misses.
What are your thoughts on the won? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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No idea. I suspect it will stay relatively stable. But I'm "short" the ROK. I think we've past peak Korea. |
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