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Temporary
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| Plus why waste money on Quad core when you have such a light weight GPU? Just go with a 8X00 series Dual core. |
one word... MULTITASKING....
It is not all about the GPU.
It is truly nice to be able to game while encoding video, ripping a DVD or burning one, ALL at the SAME time.
Oh, and the cost of a Q6600 quad is not significantly different from a dual 8x00.
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you know that is a big load of bs.. how many dvds are you going to burn. Unless your rendering something and that can take up to day on time. Seriously ripping dvds in Korea. Its faster just to download them. Personnaly I would save myself the money and get a lower end cpu and oc it a bit.
multitasking is the ability to screw up more then one thing at a time. |
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JustJohn
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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It depends on what he wants to use the computer for. If he wants to do INTENSE multitasking he should go with the q6600.
I would still recommend the e8400 to most users though. Unless you are the type that would be ripping/encoding/compiling in the background on a normal basis you'll probably see better performance from the e8400, and last I checked it was a bit cheaper as well. Also overclocks exceptionally well.
Your build:
cpu - check
mobo - check (gigabyte looks like a better choice for you than the expensive one)
ram - check
optical drive - check (hard to keep track of which ones are good these days, I'd get a lightscribe one just cause I think they're cool)
video - go with the ati one
hard drive - go with the WD 640GB one (or two) they're really fast and not expensive
psu - probably don't need the zalman, get a 450w with good ratings. Zalman might be a decent choice in Korea
Case - consider a decent case if the computer is going to be in a hot or poorly ventilated area or if you're going to have it doing demanding tasks a lot. Antec three hundred is your best bet for a cheap case. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
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| Plus why waste money on Quad core when you have such a light weight GPU? Just go with a 8X00 series Dual core. |
one word... MULTITASKING....
It is not all about the GPU.
It is truly nice to be able to game while encoding video, ripping a DVD or burning one, ALL at the SAME time.
Oh, and the cost of a Q6600 quad is not significantly different from a dual 8x00.
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you know that is a big load of bs.. how many dvds are you going to burn. Unless your rendering something and that can take up to day on time. Seriously ripping dvds in Korea. Its faster just to download them. Personnaly I would save myself the money and get a lower end cpu and oc it a bit.
multitasking is the ability to screw up more then one thing at a time. |
He's actually doing less than usual....
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timmeh
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all your help.
Refined it a bit.
Main Board - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
CPU - Q6600 (quad core) and stock heatsink and fan.
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe IMB USB i2c/SMBus
RAM - 4 gigs
ODD - lightscribe DVD Burner
Video - ATI HD 4670 512MB GDDR3
HDDs: 2 x Western Digital 640GB
PS: Zalman 600w power supply
Case: Antec 300
One more question I did have was concerning the video card. Does this card hold up against most labor intensive games? I just love maxing out resolution and want a card to handle it. Should I be considering a more expensive ATI card? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| timmeh wrote: |
Thanks for all your help.
Refined it a bit.
Main Board - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
CPU - Q6600 (quad core) and stock heatsink and fan.
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe IMB USB i2c/SMBus
RAM - 4 gigs
ODD - lightscribe DVD Burner
Video - ATI HD 4670 512MB GDDR3
HDDs: 2 x Western Digital 640GB
PS: Zalman 600w power supply
Case: Antec 300
One more question I did have was concerning the video card. Does this card hold up against most labor intensive games? I just love maxing out resolution and want a card to handle it. Should I be considering a more expensive ATI card? |
The HD4670 will not allow smooth gameplay of modern games at high resolutions. It's a sub-$100 card. I thought you said you didn't want an intensive gaming card.
Of course, you could move up to the fantastic ATI HD4850. A best-seller and amazing value at 200,000. A friend who built a PC recently went for a cheap GPU (8500GT) at first. Within a couple of months he was out shopping again and got the HD4850. He's much happier now!! |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| If you are wanting to play newer games, definitely upgrade to the 4850. If that puts you over-budget, drop one of the HDDs. You can always add another one later. It's better to buy a better VGA now and a HDD later than have an extra VGA later if you need to upgrade. |
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timmeh
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: One last check... |
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First off, let me say thank you for everyone's help.
So just a last final check, this is what I think I'll get....
Main Board - Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
CPU - Q6600 (quad core) and stock heatsink and fan.
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe IMB USB i2c/SMBus
RAM - 4 gigs
ODD - lightscribe DVD Burner
Video - ATI HD 4850
HDDs: 2 x Western Digital 640GB
PS: Zalman 600w power supply
Case: Antec 300
And this should be able to handle games like, Oblivion, Crysis...etc? correct? As well as video editing?
If there are any last comments, please post or else I'm going to go with this baby this weekend.
Thanks again for all your help guys,  |
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4K1
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Looks sweet...you won't be sorry w/ that Zalman...  |
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Gaber
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you're burning money on a 600W PSU for a one video card system. I'd suggest getting a (quality) 450W PSU and using the money you save to get a 4850 with a Zalman cooler (the VF-1000 or the VF-1050). It will make for a much quieter and cooler machine. Unless you're looking to overclock significantly or add a second video card latter or maybe run a USB toaster I think you're just not going to need 600W |
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EuroFunk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: jobless in Busan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't skimp on the mouse/keyboard combo and go cheap, but treat yourself with a nice gaming one. You'll be surprised how well it complements the new rig. |
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Gaber
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't skimp on the mouse/keyboard combo and go cheap, but treat yourself with a nice gaming one. You'll be surprised how well it complements the new rig. |
Yeah, I dropped 5 man on a Logitec gaming mouse and have never regretted it, though I find a generic Samsung keyboard fine. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Gaber wrote: |
| I think you're burning money on a 600W PSU for a one video card system. I'd suggest getting a (quality) 450W PSU and using the money you save to get a 4850 with a Zalman cooler (the VF-1000 or the VF-1050). It will make for a much quieter and cooler machine. Unless you're looking to overclock significantly or add a second video card latter or maybe run a USB toaster I think you're just not going to need 600W |
I don't think there would be a big difference in price between a 'quality' 450w and the Zalman 600w. The Zalman is only 105,000 in Korea. It's $160 in the States. It's one of the very few times that a computer component can be bought cheaply in Korea. Take advantage of that.
I've been using one in my main computer for just over a year now and can vouch for it's quality. 24/7 for over 1 year. Quiet and smooth. |
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4K1
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Me too...it's a nice PSU. It's heavy duty and silent. |
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broken76
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I think that you really need to nail down what you're looking for. If you are going to do massive multitasking then go quad if not dual core is usually more then enough.
Also how much gaming are you planning on doing and what resolution is your monitor?
Are you planning on overclocking?
Once you really figure out what you're looking for getting a build together is going to be easy. |
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Gaber
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Quiet's great, but still? 100 bucks for a PSU? I've never paid more than 40, and I've never had an issue arising from it. |
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