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Is the 2nd IMF Going to Happen Here
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Is the 2nd IMF Going to Happen Here Reply with quote

I was chatting to some fellow Koreans at work and they are really stressed at the moment due to house prices being inflated, debt soaring and jobs being cut.

One guy in particular, whose wife owns a restaurant, has so much pressure with regards to rental price, etc increasing and is considering closing the place.

I get the feeling that Korea's economic bubble is going burst very very soon and when it does, it will surprise all Koreans. Do you think that Korea will return to the days like during 1997? Will hagwon still be around in a year? Seriously people, have a backup plan 'cos this place may sink in a year.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang, you just blew the whistle. I hope not. Paying 1200 to 2000 won for a $ is messed up. I tell you in today's economy, we're just getting jacked from all ways.
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640x480



Joined: 02 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cousin from the states is telling me how crappy it is in the states right now. Everyone's feeling this one...

BTW, this is exactly why teaching jobs are so coveted in Korea...IMF or not the schools have to keep running. I heard teacher's here get tenure right away, job security anyone?
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speculation in real estate in Seoul/Kyongi is one of the most nefarious things about the economy and the money spin.
Most people I know buy apartments only on expectations of (high) capital gain. They do interest-only loans and need 15% year on year up-valuations to keep their investment positive. In recession when gain isn't realized they moan and groan. Some even blow themselves and their families up with dynamite. Others sigh with them and share their misery, but I have no sympathy. You play the game and go for higher rewards.
I don't play the game. I will often be the quintessential loser - until ... 'pop goes the bubble.'
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't expect your school to be around in a year. They would probably downsize during a bad economic period and would cut staff. Guys, I would advise you all to have a backup plan. Save your cash for a rainy day and able to buy your way back.

It is all a gloomy prospect next year. Don't forget you have been warned.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If IMF happened again, I don't think anyone would be bailing Korea out, because it's bad everywhere.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
I wouldn't expect your school to be around in a year. They would probably downsize during a bad economic period and would cut staff. Guys, I would advise you all to have a backup plan. Save your cash for a rainy day and able to buy your way back.

It is all a gloomy prospect next year. Don't forget you have been warned.


It's gloomy but not a second IMF, as Korea still remembers the lessons from 1997. Yes, short-term debt is up and consumption and exports are down, but well, I've heard this "the sky is falling" cry before after the IMF crisis and it's highly unlikely.

Korea is a lot less dependent on the U.S. market now that it has diversified its export markets and has FAR more forex reserves (more than $200 billion) than it did before 1997 (around $55 billion).

Another report said Koreans tend to spend MORE on education in tough times.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore the warnings about losing your job. That is scare-mongering.

I was here during the '97 melt down. Only the small mom & pop hakwons with few students need to worry. Even then, there will be other teaching jobs available. The need for English will not go away. Just move to a public school if necessary. The demand in the public schools is higher than the supply.

It wouldn't hurt to keep enough money in your account to fly out of here if an emergency happens. That's common sense at any time.

As the economy contracts, watch for bargains but don't be foolish.
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got her in 98. WON was around 1,300 to the dollar. The Hagwon I started at hired me because of booming enrolement. Koreans tend to invest more money into education during hard economic times.

I'm not overly worried at this time for my self. I am a bit worried as my wife is pregnant with twins so were going to get a double whammy in a few months.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twins wow. Congratulations. That has to be scary. We just had our second child, and I'm a little worried about how to keep everything afloat.
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The IMF is not going to happen again. The world is going into depression by the sounds of things. If that happens all countries will be in the same boat. Every country for themselves.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saw6436 wrote:
I got her in 98. WON was around 1,300 to the dollar. The Hagwon I started at hired me because of booming enrolement. Koreans tend to invest more money into education during hard economic times.

I'm not overly worried at this time for my self. I am a bit worried as my wife is pregnant with twins so were going to get a double whammy in a few months.


Well, I got here in 1997 and many places closed down, laid-off and downsized. And you kn ow what?! It can certainly happen again.
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aka Dave



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really scary. The European markets are falling apart as well ( http://www.lemonde.fr/ if you can understand French). This isn't potentially an IMF. It's potentially a global depression, which is far worse. One upside is China, Korean's top export market, is still chugging alont. However, to the huffingtonpost.com 6 in 10 Americans are predicting a depression.

I work at a Univ. I pretty much have been offered a job renewal starting March next year, however God knows how secure that is. My students aren't really talking about the economics stuff so it doesn't sound like they're having trouble with tuition.

Every day the news seems to get worse. I'm just gonna hold my won as long as I can, and that might be years atm.
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been planning to enroll in a Korean language course at one of the big unis for the next year or so full-time...stop working. With things the way they are, do you guys think I'd be ok to take the course, or would I be better off to keep working and stashing the cash?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOS, if you have been seriously planning it -- take the course. If you happen to have money overseas, you could probably live off of that via ATM and do pretty well. hahaha

To learn Korean is good, if you can do it.
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