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ulsanchris · Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess

Speaking of Metallica they have credited Rush as being one of the bands that influenced them. Don't believe me watch Cliff 'em all.

ulsanchris · Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess

Motorhead is also a fan of Rush.

uberscheisse · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.

Benicio · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:31 am Post subject:

Fishead soup, now you�re just being a pompous jerk.
You absolute hate Rush, you think they have no artistic merit, and have not been influential at all- we get it!
You only know of 5 guys in Toronto who like them and you believe that to be representative of the whole world- we get it!
You hate prog-rock and think one hit wonder punk is the end all, be all of music- we get it!
I didn�t start this thread to get into a whole love Rush vs. hate Rush s h I t fight.
There are those, like me, who grew up on their music and have absolutely loved them.
There are those who may not like them, but admit that they have made a huge impact on countless musicians.
There are those, like you, who lividly hate them, so much so as to completely deny any merit or impact they have had.
You hate Rush. That�s certainly your choice. However, to outright deny that they have a world of fans and have been a major influence on musicians in today�s world is simply an outright dismissal of reality.
From Wikipedia:
�They have influenced various musical artists, including Metallica, The Smashing Pumpkins and Primus, as well as notable progressive metal bands such as Dream Theater and Symphony X.�
�Rush has won a number of Juno Awards, and was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame in 1994. Over the course of their careers, the individual members of Rush have been acknowledged as being some of the most proficient players on their respective instruments, with each band member winning several awards in magazine readers' polls. As a group, Rush possesses 24 gold records and 14 platinum (3 multi-platinum) records. These statistics place Rush fifth behind The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Kiss and Aerosmith for the most consecutive gold and platinum albums by a rock band. Rush also ranks 78th in U.S. album sales according to the RIAA with sales of 25 million units. Although total worldwide album sales are not calculated by any single entity, as of 2004 several industry sources estimated Rush's total worldwide album sales at over 40 million units.�
Geddy Lee: �Lee's style, technique, and skill on the bass guitar have proven very influential in the rock and heavy metal genres, inspiring such players as Steve Harris of Iron Maiden, John Myung of Dream Theater, Les Claypool of Primus, and Cliff Burton of Metallica.�
Neil Peart: practically every drummer on the planet has gone through a Neil Peart phase!
�The members of Rush have themselves noted that people "either love Rush or hate Rush", resulting in strong detractors and an intensely loyal fan base. To the chagrin of fans, the band has not been nominated for entry into the American Rock and Roll Hall of Fame since their year of eligibility in 1998. The Hall's refusal to induct Rush may be a consequence of the band's insistence on remaining outside the mainstream of rock when it comes to self-promotion, in favor of maintaining a high degree of independence. To this day fans earnestly clamor for the band's inclusion into the Hall by citing noteworthy accomplishments including longevity, proficiency, and influence, as well as commercial sales figures and RIAA certifications. However, Lifeson has expressed his indifference toward the perceived slight. Rush has gained a degree of recognition in popular culture despite any official recognition from the Hall.�

Would you like to continue with the Rush have no real fans and have not been influential crap?
Enough already!

Like Jack Nicholson said "Go sell crazy somewhere else!"

uberscheisse · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.

Benicio · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:46 am Post subject:

Many apologies ubersheisse!

Got confused in all the melee- my bonehead move of the day.

Edit has been made.

uberscheisse · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.

blaseblasphemener · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:08 am Post subject:

I cannot let the slagging of Rush slide.

If you don't like Rush, you need to get with the times.

These three guys, are rock gods.

I grew up hating them because they were on the radio all the time in Canada, because of the Canadian content quota.

I have had a change of heart. They are incredible!

Peart is the heart of the band, drums and lyrics.

Geddy is unbelievable on bass, brilliant style that stands out in every song.

Alex Lifeson is a virtuoso. Check out this clip of them playing in front of 40,000 people in Brazil. The place is going nuts. Lifeson's solo is at 2:13 or so, but watch the whole song.

These are three guys who just love to rock, no smoke and mirrors, just a love of music and of playing together. They represent all that is good about rock n' roll!
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TECO · Joined: 20 Jan 2003

Benicio · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:59 am Post subject:

You may not like them, but you can't deny their power and influence in the music world!

Motorhead- great band, highly influential. I think they should get respect.

Keep in mind, it took far too long for Black Sabbath to get the nod.
Ozzy had to start raising a stink about it.

Black Sabbath finally got their due.
However, I am of the opinion that solo Ozzy does not really meet the criteria. Yes, some good songs, but does not cut it to be classified in the halls of the greats.

What do you think?

Another thing- when looking into the eligibles who got their start in the 80's, the list of "greats" starts to dwindle. Do you think they will be hurting for good nominees in the coming years before the 90's greats will be eligible?

I think that's when we'll start seeing real talk about bands like Motorhead and Rush.

Benicio · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:06 am Post subject:

Other bands for discussion:

Deep Purple

Bad Company

Judas Priest

Ronnie James Dio

Iron Maiden

Slayer

Black Flag

Dead Kennedys

The Cure

The Smiths

Like the first post with Bon Jovi:
Both Def Leppard and Motley Crue have been hugely popular over the years. Should they get any respect?

Shauneyz · Joined: 26 May 2008 Location: The land of Nod

uberscheisse · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.

i especially back slayer. they deserve it a thousand times more than metallica. this is not even a personal preference thing - i've made it no secret that i have a very long-standing love for that band - but there's a bigger reason that they are more deserving than metallica.

metallica was part of a movement, but as they "grew" and "matured" over time they changed their sound significantly as they got more popular. they didn't just suck, they sucked in a way that screamed "we need more fans! let's write sing-song garbage that joe fratboy will like!"

that doesn't scream trailblazer to me. slayer has changed very little over the years. same message, same music, same delivery. they spawned tons of imitators (who, while imitators, weren't all that bad). heavy music wouldn't be the same today without slayer.

you can hear that in so many mid-90s "alternative" bands, metal bands, punk and hardcore bands, from rhythms to drum and guitar sounds.

here's 2 other suggestions:

Rick Rubin
Dire Straits or Mark Knopfler on his own

and i do back what has been said about The New York Dolls, Black Flag, and especially The Cure - i'd also add Joy Division to that too.

Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest. - i back all these but i think it's essential to think which exec at the RRHOF is going to say "ok ok ok, only ONE 80s hair band!" when all 4 of those bands is very different? it's easy to see them pooh-poohing the rest in favor of one, when all were fairly significant.