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mindmetoo
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 Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: Nebraska law lets parents abandon teens |
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/08/nebraska.safe.haven/index.html
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Frustrated parents are dumping their teenagers at Nebraska hospitals -- even crossing state lines to do it -- and the state Legislature has scheduled a special hearing to try to stem the tide.
A 14-year-old Iowa girl was left Tuesday at Creighton University Medical Center in Omaha, Nebraska.
Nebraska's "safe haven" law, intended to allow parents to anonymously hand over an infant to a hospital without being prosecuted, isn't working out as planned.
Of the 17 children relinquished since the law took effect in July, only four are younger than 10 -- and all four are among the nine siblings abandoned by a man September 24 at an Omaha hospital. |
Must be those atheists doing it. Surely. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| This is not necessarily a bad thing. If the parents are that f***ed up they need to abandon their kids, at least they are handing them over safely, instead of throwing them on the street. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. Only 17 kids ....
These parents know they are not able to do a decent job. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Then what happens to them? They go to orphanages to await adoption (or age 18 )?
Can a child go there and say he wants to abandon his parents?
BTW, never close a parenthesis after the character '8'!
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I think its a great law. My stupid sister ran away from home, police refused to do anything add insult to injury my mom was almost charged with assault because she forced her to get in the car to come home. Now that she is 16 she is considered an adult and my mom has washed her hands of the pain in the ass. Yet the province had nothing that would protect my mom for when my idiotic sibling was a minor. |
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friendoken
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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I too think it is a great idea. Prior to my birth, my older brother (7 Years) put my mother in a nuthouse for three months due to a total nervous breakdown. He was, has been, and always will be, a complete piece of garbage. We have had no contact with him for years. The stress he caused my late parents was phenomenal. I hope he is dead. And I hope he died slow and painful.
If the folks could have ditched him when he was 5 or so, they may still both be alive. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting that parents (probably mothers mostly) are allowed to flat out abandon children while fathers are hunted to the ends of the Earth if they fail to pay vaginamony ostensibly for the upkeep of children they may not even be allowed to see. I guess at least the mothers would get some kind of slap on the wrist if they murdered their teenagers, as opposed to their unborn children. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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If the law keeps babies from being abandoned in garbage cans, then it's a good law. There are other situations where parents are unable to continue caring for/raising a child.
The law is a good-faith attempt. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
If the law keeps babies from being abandoned in garbage cans, then it's a good law. There are other situations where parents are unable to continue caring for/raising a child.
The law is a good-faith attempt. |
The law as intended is good. The ability for a young mother to give up a baby and not have to toss it in a trash can. Regarding teenagers, there are usually other laws on the book that allow a parent to give up an older child that can't be cared for. Taking a teenager across state lines, kicking the kid out of a car, and zooming away isn't, I'm sure, what the law makers intended this law to be.
Given most states probably have laws that require counseling and coping classes etc before a woman can abandon her teenager to the state, this law is just a cheap and possibly dangerous out. It's not a good idea. |
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Cornfed
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| If the law keeps babies from being abandoned in garbage cans, then it's a good law. |
The solution to that would be to liberally dispense the death penalty to the sick scum doing it. This is like stopping violent burgalaries from happening by requiring homeowners to give the crooks half their stuff. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| How is this any different from parents who are unable to cope turning their kids over to social services? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| How is this any different from parents who are unable to cope turning their kids over to social services? |
Because, as I noted, you just don't push your kid out of a car. I would hope Social Services first investigates and determines if there's another way parent and child can stay together or if the case is beyond hope. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| How is this any different from parents who are unable to cope turning their kids over to social services? |
Because, as I noted, you just don't push your kid out of a car. I would hope Social Services first investigates and determines if there's another way parent and child can stay together or if the case is beyond hope. |
Yeah, but a parent who does push their kid out of a car like that is obviously f***ed in some way (either temporarily or permanently) and so handing their kid over safely and immediately is probably the best thing for all, however it's done. The situation has already come to a head by this time. Of course the parent should then be investigated, and obviously social services should work to reuniting them if it looks feasible and not potentially disasterous for the child. But this is better than throwing a kid out on the street (which happens all too commonly). |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Yeah, but a parent who does push their kid out of a car like that is obviously f***ed in some way (either temporarily or permanently) and so handing their kid over safely and immediately is probably the best thing for all, however it's done. |
That's your assumption. But I don't share that assumption. Parents do a lot of horrible things already to their kids out of laziness and misinformation and not psychosis. Parents are getting their kids vaccinated, putting them and other kids in grave danger of killer diseases we nearly wiped off the face of the earth. Those parents aren't f'd up. They're just dangerously misinformed. It's well possible such parents kicking their kids out of the car are misinformed by what social services in their area can give them.
How many reasonable people just drive their pets out to the country and toss the dog into a farmers field and drive away? They should know there are other local steps in their community they can take to rid themselves of a pet they're no longer capable of taking care of. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Here's the latest twist. How about a kid with a kid?
But limiting the eligible age to three days seems to be going too far in the opposite direction.
Neb. teen mom seeks safe haven for baby, herself
By TIMBERLY ROSS, Associated Press Writer
Thu Oct 23, 11:13 pm
ETOMAHA, Neb. � A 16-year-old mother walked into a hospital in an attempt to use Nebraska's unique safe-haven law � not to abandon her baby, but to get help for herself and her son.
The girl, who was escorted by an aunt last week to Immanuel Medical Center in Omaha, told a social worker that she was kicked out of her mother's home, according to court documents filed in Douglas County Juvenile Court. She also said that she had been emotionally abused and suffered physical harm.
Court records indicate that the teen's mother would likely be charged with criminal child neglect, though Omaha police said Thursday that no charge had been filed. The teen and her 10-month-old son have been placed in foster care.
Nebraska's safe-haven law, which took effect in July, is the only one in the country that lets anyone leave a child as old as 18 at a state-licensed hospital without fear of prosecution for the abandonment.
At least 19 children, the youngest 22 months and many of them teens, have been abandoned under the law. Most of the state Legislature's 49 senators have agreed to amend the law so it applies only to infants up to 3 days old; they will be back in regular session in January.
The Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services has not listed the teenage mother or her son among the state's safe-haven cases. Spokeswoman Jeanne Atkinson said the case didn't fall under the state's safe-haven law because the wording requires a person to leave a child. |
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