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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Let me see if I understand this confusing thread:

Jimmy Carter gave Khomeni a subprime mortgage in the critical year of 1979 and because of the CIA coup which overthrew Lehman Brothers in 1953, the CIA sold credit default swaps on Iranian oil futures contracts when it was selling at $30 a barrel, so that now Bernanke is sending money to Iran to unwind the financial crisis that has come because of $100 a barrel oil and none of this would have happened if Joo would have gone to Paris in 1976 and shot Khomeni. It would have taken only one wise lone hero to save the world back then and there would be no financial meltdown today.




Actually, I was in Paris and ran into Jimmy while I was there, but I didn't see Joo or Khomeni, although thousands of big Ks supporters were everywhere in Paris in those days.


Kind of if Iran was out of the picture everything would be different today. Including oil prices.

Get oil prices to 30 dollars and the US economy easts the subprime scandal for lunch.
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jkelly80



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 dollars a barrel? That easy! Just kill all of the Chinese! There goes demand!
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil will pull back to 60$ and the Saudi's won't defend for a while anything higher than 60. Joo will get his experiment.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
You asked those of us who are reading "to consider America's role in the overthrow of [M. Mossadeq]." Some of us have in fact made a point to consider this event in much detail.


Joo's entire premise is that Carter should bear the full responsibility of Khomeni, the Iran-Iraq War, Al Qaeda, and 9-11. No word from you about that claim.

Meanwhile I make one ironic statement pointing to the US's role in overthrowing Mossadeq as a turning point and you get in a tither.

Can you be any more two-faced?

And no, citing Kirkpatrick doesn't prove anything other than the fact that she plays the same partisan blame game as you and Joo.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Gopher wrote:
You asked those of us who are reading "to consider America's role in the overthrow of [M. Mossadeq]." Some of us have in fact made a point to consider this event in much detail.


Joo's entire premise is that Carter should bear the full responsibility of Khomeni, the Iran-Iraq War, Al Qaeda, and 9-11. No word from you about that claim.

Meanwhile I make one ironic statement pointing to the US's role in overthrowing Mossadeq as a turning point and you get in a tither.

Can you be any more two-faced?

And no, citing Kirkpatrick doesn't prove anything other than the fact that she plays the same partisan blame game as you and Joo.


No Khomeni and everything is different.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:


No Khomeni and everything is different.


Your premise is built on a parallel universe that I'm not privy to. Good luck in your time travels and do be careful.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:


No Khomeni and everything is different.


Your premise is built on a parallel universe that I'm not privy to. Good luck in your time travels and do be careful.


The government that is in Iran is directly related to just about all current US strategic and economic problems.

Change that and it is clear what the situation is like.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:


No Khomeni and everything is different.


Your premise is built on a parallel universe that I'm not privy to. Good luck in your time travels and do be careful.


The government that is in Iran is directly related to just about all current US strategic and economic problems.


So your blaming the banking crisis on Carter now. Wow. Clearly the most influential man of the 20th century.

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Change that and it is clear what the situation is like.


Joo. Are you aware that Khomeini has been dead for 19 years?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Oil will pull back to 60$ and the Saudi's won't defend for a while anything higher than 60. Joo will get his experiment.



60 is still high


The US needs 40$
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:


No Khomeni and everything is different.


Your premise is built on a parallel universe that I'm not privy to. Good luck in your time travels and do be careful.


The government that is in Iran is directly related to just about all current US strategic and economic problems.


So your blaming the banking crisis on Carter now. Wow. Clearly the most influential man of the 20th century.

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Change that and it is clear what the situation is like.


Joo. Are you aware that Khomeini has been dead for 19 years?


Iran's government out of the picture what is the price of oil?

Irans' government has been around for 30.
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you two really need two threads going on the exact same topic at the exact same time?
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:

Iran's government out of the picture what is the price of oil?


I don't know. How much more oil would be getting pumped? Probably not enough to lower the price all that much.

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Irans' government has been around for 30.


Khomeini, the supposed evilest and worst leader imaginable, is no longer in charge. Hmmm, there goes that hyperbole out the window.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
ontheway wrote:
Let me see if I understand this confusing thread:

Jimmy Carter gave Khomeni a subprime mortgage in the critical year of 1979 and because of the CIA coup which overthrew Lehman Brothers in 1953, the CIA sold credit default swaps on Iranian oil futures contracts when it was selling at $30 a barrel, so that now Bernanke is sending money to Iran to unwind the financial crisis that has come because of $100 a barrel oil and none of this would have happened if Joo would have gone to Paris in 1976 and shot Khomeni. It would have taken only one wise lone hero to save the world back then and there would be no financial meltdown today.




Actually, I was in Paris and ran into Jimmy while I was there, but I didn't see Joo or Khomeni, although thousands of big Ks supporters were everywhere in Paris in those days.


Kind of if Iran was out of the picture everything would be different today. Including oil prices.

Get oil prices to 30 dollars and the US economy easts the subprime scandal for lunch.



I think you missed the point.

You guys hijacked this thread and should have started your own about this topic.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thiophene wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:

You are a hater and a decivier and a moonbat as well. Anyway you have no problem with bigotry just as long as it is directed at the right group.


and stoping Khomeni saves lives. Khomei was more oppressive than the Shah.

By the way it is okay to hate Khomeni followers , Al Qaedists and Bathists.


Friends of yours thiophene?



Quote:
Khomeini fatwa 'led to killing of 30,000 in Iran'

By Christina Lamb, Diplomatic Correspondent
Last Updated: 3:55PM BST 19 Jun 2001

CHILDREN as young as 13 were hanged from cranes, six at a time, in a barbaric two-month purge of Iran's prisons on the direct orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, according to a new book by his former deputy.

More than 30,000 political prisoners were executed in the 1988 massacre - a far larger number than previously suspected. Secret documents smuggled out of Iran reveal that, because of the large numbers of necks to be broken, prisoners were loaded onto forklift trucks in groups of six and hanged from cranes in half-hourly intervals.

Gruesome details are contained in the memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, The Memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, one of the founders of the Islamic regime. He was once considered Khomeini's anointed successor, but was deposed for his outspokenness, and is now under house arrest in the holy city of Qom.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/1321090/Khomeini-fatwa-'led-to-killing-of-30,000-in-Iran'.html

hating an ideology is totally fine, but using it to justify killing the innocent is taking it too far.

Punishing one's actions or beliefs when they're so young is wrong...which is why the detainment of Omar Khadr is so disgusting. Thank you USA. But the death penalty is so wrong to begin with anyways. Again, thank you USA.


stopping Khomeni followers , Al Qaedists and Bathists saves lives.

Those lives count too.
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