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afsjesse
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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 Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Overtime for winter break? |
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So I've just been told that I have to work during most of the winter vacation. They said I would be coming to school and making lesson plans as well as working some camps. I have friends who were paid extra for working camps for their school, but I'm not sure what constitutes this.
Can anyone tell me the EPIK policy for being paid while working on vacation? I know I'm paid my normal wage no matter what, but what exactly do people get paid extra for? |
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wings
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| Usually you would be paid extra if you either worked over your contracted hours, or if there was a camp that kids were paying for and your school wanted to be nice and share the money with you. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I've never recieved less than 30k per camp class during holidays. Sometimes 40k. Last year I picked up and extra million (950k) a week several weeks during the holidays. It was very nice indeed. |
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AussieGav
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| I've never recieved less than 30k per camp class during holidays. Sometimes 40k. Last year I picked up and extra million (950k) a week several weeks during the holidays. It was very nice indeed. |
Wow very nice indeed. I wonder if this is the rule or just a nice exception. Good for you, nice little earner. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| I've never recieved less than 30k per camp class during holidays. Sometimes 40k. Last year I picked up and extra million (950k) a week several weeks during the holidays. It was very nice indeed. |
Wow very nice indeed. I wonder if this is the rule or just a nice exception. Good for you, nice little earner. |
I'm the same. I think 40k is a nice number.
The school will want to keep the money of course, but the trick is to phrase your answer well. When they tell you you'll work during "holiday", you just say "Great, I need the extra money." Listen to them try to stammer their way out of that. |
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AussieGav
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| I've never recieved less than 30k per camp class during holidays. Sometimes 40k. Last year I picked up and extra million (950k) a week several weeks during the holidays. It was very nice indeed. |
Wow very nice indeed. I wonder if this is the rule or just a nice exception. Good for you, nice little earner. |
I'm the same. I think 40k is a nice number.
The school will want to keep the money of course, but the trick is to phrase your answer well. When they tell you you'll work during "holiday", you just say "Great, I need the extra money." Listen to them try to stammer their way out of that. |
Very good response there Marlow. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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i wouldn't get your hopes up though, unless the contract specifically says they will pay you extra for classes during the winter/summer vacation periods, which i believe most (if not, all) public school contracts do not, they don't have to pay you for anything within your regular number of teaching hours.
and many schools will not have a problem telling you so |
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pandapanda
Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| AussieGav wrote: |
| poet13 wrote: |
| I've never recieved less than 30k per camp class during holidays. Sometimes 40k. Last year I picked up and extra million (950k) a week several weeks during the holidays. It was very nice indeed. |
Wow very nice indeed. I wonder if this is the rule or just a nice exception. Good for you, nice little earner. |
I'm the same. I think 40k is a nice number.
The school will want to keep the money of course, but the trick is to phrase your answer well. When they tell you you'll work during "holiday", you just say "Great, I need the extra money." Listen to them try to stammer their way out of that. |
That's easy to get out of. Your contract says you will get x holidays a year and you get them. The rest of the time you are required to teach up to 22 classes a week be they during 'holidays' or not. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| pandapanda wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| AussieGav wrote: |
| poet13 wrote: |
| I've never recieved less than 30k per camp class during holidays. Sometimes 40k. Last year I picked up and extra million (950k) a week several weeks during the holidays. It was very nice indeed. |
Wow very nice indeed. I wonder if this is the rule or just a nice exception. Good for you, nice little earner. |
I'm the same. I think 40k is a nice number.
The school will want to keep the money of course, but the trick is to phrase your answer well. When they tell you you'll work during "holiday", you just say "Great, I need the extra money." Listen to them try to stammer their way out of that. |
That's easy to get out of. Your contract says you will get x holidays a year and you get them. The rest of the time you are required to teach up to 22 classes a week be they during 'holidays' or not. |
My school never bothered. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: |
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i wouldn't get your hopes up though, unless the contract specifically says they will pay you extra for classes during the winter/summer vacation periods, which i believe most (if not, all) public school contracts do not, they don't have to pay you for anything within your regular number of teaching hours.
and many schools will not have a problem telling you so |
Yep. Mine sure didn't. I thought the contract was horrible before I signed it, but I heard so many stories about schools that "don't bother" to make you work over the holiday. No. Such. Luck. |
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pokesplort
Joined: 05 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah i am also confused by this whole "winter camp" idea. my co teacher told me i would teach school in the mornings as usual and then could leave after that. after lesson planning or whatever. i dont know if this is normal or if she just doesnt explain things well and i'm not reading between the lines enough? should i or can i flat out refuse? i'm getting paid but i dont think in overtime. i'm new to this whole situation here so if anyone knows the low down that'd be great. i work in gyeonggi so gepik system. i'm sure part of my problems here is that i'm shy and normally in any situation i just want to take the path of least resistance. but its becoming apparent that i am gonna have to ask more questions etc. blah |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| pokesplort wrote: |
| yeah i am also confused by this whole "winter camp" idea. my co teacher told me i would teach school in the mornings as usual and then could leave after that. after lesson planning or whatever. i dont know if this is normal or if she just doesnt explain things well and i'm not reading between the lines enough? should i or can i flat out refuse? i'm getting paid but i dont think in overtime. i'm new to this whole situation here so if anyone knows the low down that'd be great. i work in gyeonggi so gepik system. i'm sure part of my problems here is that i'm shy and normally in any situation i just want to take the path of least resistance. but its becoming apparent that i am gonna have to ask more questions etc. blah |
DON'T REFUSE. if what i put in bold is true, then that means you'll be working half days only during the vacation period! however, if you refuse to teach the classes without extra money (check your contract, it says you must teach a certain number of classes each week) you will lose... and then your co-teacher, VP, principal may be annoyed and decide you have to stay at school the entire day. |
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timetotravel
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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this is my second year at my pub school and last year i didnt have to work any time during winter holidays, 7 weeks off completely.
during the summer it was my choice to work a summer camp, they asked and i said yes because i wanted the extra money.....which i got.....500 000 won for 20 hours of work! |
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nizpaz
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it's confusing as you say it does state in the SMOE contract that I am expected to work winter/summer camp as part of the working hours. Yet many posters say they get the holiday time off. Like everything it is down to the individual school.
The question is, do I ask my supervisor what will happen (So I can be prepared) or do I ride it along hoping that their relative inexperience will mean I get the holiday cos they don't know anything different? (I'm the first SMOE NT they've had, and they've already shown they don't have a clue half the time) |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| nizpaz wrote: |
| The question is, do I ask my supervisor what will happen (So I can be prepared) or do I ride it along hoping that their relative inexperience will mean I get the holiday cos they don't know anything different? |
I'd ask just to get them to put their cards on the table. Then you can let them know where you will work next year based on their answer. |
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