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Join Me
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 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: The Average McCain Supporter? |
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/10/11/supporters_jeer_as_mccain_calls_obama_a_decent_person/
This lady got up at one of McCain's rallies and said she "donut" (I swear she said "donut") trust Obama because he is an "Arab." Is this what the McCain / Palin camp is all about? We like Palin cause she has nice frames on her glasses and we don't like Obama cause he looks like an Arab? This is the Republican base? Such deep thinkers.
I caught the video of this McCain supporter on the news and couldn't stop laughing. McCain couldn't get away from her quick enough. The best part is that McCain will now be in hot water with the Arab American community. His reply to the lady was to say that Obama is not an Arab. McCain said Obama is a "decent man." Arabs aren't decent?  |
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oskinny1
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| Calling that woman the GOP's base is a little unfair. There are thousands of just as f'ed up folks on the Left. Though it does show how messed up some peoples thinking can get. She was interviewed by CNN after the rally and said he was also a Muslim. When she was informed that he is really a Christian, she refused to believe it. |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
| Calling that woman the GOP's base is a little unfair. There are thousands of just as f'ed up folks on the Left. Though it does show how messed up some peoples thinking can get. She was interviewed by CNN after the rally and said he was also a Muslim. When she was informed that he is really a Christian, she refused to believe it. |
She won't believe he isn't a Muslim, but probably believes in a 2000 year old book written by ignorant people in a time where control was being lost by the Empire  |
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Tony Blair
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:12 am Post subject: |
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Christians shouldn't have the right to vote. They have demonstrated an inability to think rationally, therefore, they should not be allowed to make any informed decisions on behalf of anyone except themselves.
Oh wait, in American politics, everyone is a Christian. That's very depressing. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| There are thousands of just as f'ed up folks on the Left. |
Had you said 'a handful' or even maybe 'a couple of dozen' I wouldn't challenge you, but I'd like proof of 'thousands'. |
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oskinny1
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| There are thousands of just as f'ed up folks on the Left. |
Had you said 'a handful' or even maybe 'a couple of dozen' I wouldn't challenge you, but I'd like proof of 'thousands'. |
OK, think back when you were in uni, remember the crowd around the fountain? The ones wearing the cut off jeans (you are in your 40s right?) and smelled like patchouli, there were about 15 of them? Well, multiply that by the hundreds/thousands of unis in the US. That isn't including those who didn't go to school because "that is what society expects." I went to a Christian conservative school (was 2nd for getting Bush's library) and we had tons of them.
I wish it weren't so, but it is true.
Here are a bunch.
http://www.burningman.com/ |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I received an email in a university community -- that is right, local B. Obama supporters unapologetically violating university policy by using university facilities to promote their politics, in spite of numerous warnings from dean's level officials to stop doing this (Obama's supporters have been doing this for weeks here) -- asking for all women to appear in a specific location this weekend. All should wear blue and all should appear for the photo op in order to demonstrate that there are so many women actively involved in the Obama campaign. They said they did not really care whether the "activists" remained for the activism -- door-to-door campaigning. What they cared most about was the photo op which they will send with their press release describing themselves and advertising their strength. They wanted a massive amount of women to appear for the photo op.
Image (the photo op) over substance (door-to-door campaigning).
These represent the average Obama supporter -- along with those who have followed the Republicans to their rallies with their camcorders to bait them or appeared at their speeches to heckle them. Self-righteous and disengenuous. And of course, far more stable emotionally and more developed intellectually than all those mentally-ill Republicans whom they despise so much. Obsessed with harping on conservatives' faults and shortcomings, if not evilness; but unable and unwilling to recognize anything at all wrong with their own side, but for, as the ever so indignant Ya-ta Boy points out, a small handful on the fringes. Nice combination.
Can hardly wait to see how they govern. |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
I received an email in a university community -- that is right, local B. Obama supporters unapologetically violating university policy by using university facilities to promote their politics, in spite of numerous warnings from dean's level officials to stop doing this (Obama's supporters have been doing this for weeks here) -- asking for all women to appear in a specific location this weekend. All should wear blue and all should appear for the photo op in order to demonstrate that there are so many women actively involved in the Obama campaign. They said they did not really care whether the "activists" remained for the activism -- door-to-door campaigning. What they cared most about was the photo op which they will send with their press release describing themselves and advertising their strength. They wanted a massive amount of women to appear for the photo op.
Image (the photo op) over substance (door-to-door campaigning).
These represent the average Obama supporter -- along with those who have followed the Republicans to their rallies with their camcorders to bait them or appeared at their speeches to heckle them. Self-righteous and disengenuous. And of course, far more stable emotionally and more developed intellectually than all those mentally-ill Republicans whom they despise so much. Obsessed with harping on conservatives' faults and shortcomings, if not evilness; but unable and unwilling to recognize anything at all wrong with their own side, but for, as the ever so indignant Ya-ta Boy points out, a small handful on the fringes. Nice combination.
Can hardly wait to see how they govern. |
Oh come on, both parties have supporters like this.
The Dems have some who will vote for them because he is black. The Reps have people who won't vote for him because he is black. Generalizing either Republican or Democratic supporters based on any of the information given in the thread is useless. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
These represent the average Obama supporter -- along with those who have followed the Republicans to their rallies with their camcorders to bait them or appeared at their speeches to heckle them. Self-righteous and disengenuous. And of course, far more stable emotionally and more developed intellectually than all those mentally-ill Republicans whom they despise so much. Obsessed with harping on conservatives' faults and shortcomings, if not evilness; but unable and unwilling to recognize anything at all wrong with their own side, but for, as the ever so indignant Ya-ta Boy points out, a small handful on the fringes. Nice combination.
Can hardly wait to see how they govern. |
Well, if we're comparing the entire Obama campaign to the McCain campaign, and then extrapolating from that how they would govern, Obama's governance will be more organized and have better strategy. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I would not make that conclusion at all, Kuros. B. Obama has a lot going for him -- re: his supporters -- for things that have little to do with him or his organizing abilities.
(1) He is "diverse" (and since we are speaking codewords on this messageboard, that means "not white," and thus perfectly acceptable to vast numbers of liberals).
(2) He is not W. Bush (note the President's approval ratings, only slightly higher than the Democratic Congress today, but such that it seems clear that there are vast numbers of Americans apart from the Democratic core prepositioned and waiting to be harnessed to a "change"-driven campaign. In fact, Bobster lectured this point to me not so long ago: he seemed to consider it a foregone conclusion, given electoral history, that J. McCain could not succeed W. Bush to the presidency).
And I am not generalizing Democrats at all, Laogaiguk. I said "B. Obama supporters" -- those who stand one step above R. Paul supporters as far as obnoxiousness goes, in my estimation. I assume there is no need to get into their treatment of H. Clinton, her husband, and their supporters, do I? We could revisit earlier threads on the Current Events forum to see what I mean if you like.
Also, Laogaiguk: I take it you disavow Join Me's purposes -- he offers a crude stereotype -- in creating this thread, then? Please confirm. |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Also, Laogaiguk: I take it you disavow Join Me's purposes -- he offers a crude stereotype -- in creating this thread, then? Please confirm. |
Definitely confirmed. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I dunno, OP, are these your average Obama supporters? |
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Hank the Iconoclast
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Christians shouldn't have the right to vote. They have demonstrated an inability to think rationally, therefore, they should not be allowed to make any informed decisions on behalf of anyone except themselves.
Oh wait, in American politics, everyone is a Christian. That's very depressing. |
I'm not really a Christian or anything but that post is full of sh*t. Do you really think all Christians are like that? Taking away someone's right to vote just because of their religious beliefs is fascism. I can see taking away a person's right to vote if they are a felon but just because of a different opinion? Ludicrous.
That's coming from a liberal. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
Christians shouldn't have the right to vote. They have demonstrated an inability to think rationally, therefore, they should not be allowed to make any informed decisions on behalf of anyone except themselves.
Oh wait, in American politics, everyone is a Christian. That's very depressing. |
I'm not really a Christian or anything but that post is full of sh*t. Do you really think all Christians are like that? Taking away someone's right to vote just because of their religious beliefs is fascism. I can see taking away a person's right to vote if they are a felon but just because of a different opinion? Ludicrous.
That's coming from a liberal. |
There are some real Hitchens/Dawkins kool-aid drinkers on this board, yes.
And yes, Hitchens/Dawkins supporters drone on about free thinking, but they are a bunch of angry fascists. |
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