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Justin Hale · Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express

I actually hope there's nothing after death. When I'm dead I want that to be it. Knowing that one day I will be dead makes me happy.

mee · Joined: 08 Sep 2007

Unfortunately you don't really die. You are just reincarnated if the world or nature needs(use) you. If you have children or even other people somewhere on this planet share some of your genetic code. So in essence you are stuck in this hell hole. Also, those who you have influenced either voluntarily or not can in some way carry a part of you to be reincarnated later. maybe that isn't even actually a good thing.

That's what's horrible about consciousness, you never know what circumstances you will wake up or be born in. Fucked up huh?

The only way you can be assured of not existing in any way, shape or form is if the whole planet was obliterated. Like a giant meteor headed to blow this place to smithereens. Maybe a good thing too.

Whirlwind · Joined: 03 Jun 2005

I guess I consider myself more spiritual than religious. I would hope that there would be continued existence on some level. My main problem with religion is that there are always convenient excuses for everything. Instead of "proof", you must have "faith". And of course, the only way that you'll find out if you are saved or not is when you die. Therefore, it is pretty convenient for religion, not having to be accountable for anything. They don't have to show anything, only base everything on "faith". I knew one guy that was heavily into religion and he would spout on about how he was "saved". I always thought it was pretty arrogant that a human could assume greater powers than a god. How do you know you are saved? It seems that you are superseding your god in that statement. And how do we know that there wasn't a David Koresh guy a couple thousand years ago with a Messiah complex who, along with his buddies, helped write a bible that told how THEY wanted people to live. You see how people even in the 20th century with all their technology fell hook, line and sinker for people like Koresh and Jim Jones. Perhaps there was such a person back those many years ago that did the same thing. Faked his death and everything. I mean, with all our technology and knowledge, people still get duped. Imagine a couple thousand years ago how easily people could be fooled. Get a charismatic guy and anything can happen.

Nobody knows what will happen after we die. I don't buy into the idea that sinners burn for eternity because 1) God supposedly loves all his chilren, so why would he condemn them to such an evil fate forever? and 2) Why would you suffer for eternity for transgressions that you commit for a few short years on earth? Seems very disproportionate to me.
I think religion was created to keep people in line; to develop society. The only way that you get people to adhere to your rules is you scare the crap out of them with such things as eternal damnation and suffering forever. What would happen today if you took away religion? What would happen to society? If you knew that it was all over when you died, would you study hard for school? Would you even care about working a job? Would you be more prone to deviant behavior if you knew there would be no consequences on the "other side". I think that religion wasmade by man for the benefit of man...nothing more, nothing less.

MissSeoul · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America

Dasein · Joined: 26 Apr 2007

1.) Your brain and mind are intimately related, although neither science or philosophy can currently explain the exact causal mechanism, we know it to be the case. (If you don't believe that, conduct a little experiment and go slam a bottle of whiskey, you'll find that changes in brain chemicals have a drastic impact on your mental states.)

2.) Matter obeys natural laws and is susceptible to change and decomposition.

3.) There is nothing special about the brain, it is composed of ordinary matter and it will eventually fall apart and decay.
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4.) As our mental life is bound up with brain structure and organized bodily energy, it is rational to assume that mental life ceases when bodily life ceases.

This is only an argument based on probability but it is as strong as those on which most scientific conclusions rest. I think we would be very skeptical to hear someone say that if a drop of water was broken down into its various components that it somehow retained its wetness, well same concept with the brain and mind.

"I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it." - Mark Twain

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D.D. · Joined: 29 May 2008

People are worried is there life after death.

I look at most people and worry is their life before death.

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Spiritual self moves on...and the exploring/traveling I'm gonna do, is gonne be 'out of this world' Wink

I think at nighttime when the physical body is physically resting, the spiritual body does get out a bit anyways...

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As far as christian heavens, christian hells, buddhist rebirths, islam after-lives, judaic afterlives and every other thing that exists in people's minds, I think they ALL exist as well. I just don't think they intersect at all.

Jandar · Joined: 11 Jun 2008

On may 11, 2007 this thread died a quiet death.

Unfortunately on Oct. 11, 2008 some jackass resurrected it.

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Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

Scientific literacy based on illusion is useless with respect to understanding the highest truth (without drugs...)

According to Vedic spiritual science, our most real sense of self has virtually nothing to do with the temporary material body.

Our bodies have been constantly dying since they were born, yet we have always consciously been aware that we remain the same person - even as every cell of the body changes (reportedly every seven years...)

Final death applies only to the gross body - the subtle body of mind, intelligence, and false ego carries the real self - the individual soul - to its next body (be it material or spiritual).

Consciousness emanates from the soul (an infinitessimal particle of the Supreme Soul) and uses the physical body, including the brain, to interface with the material world.

The consciousness sees through the eyes, hears through the ears, controls bodily functions through the brain.

If the brain - or other vital organ - becomes seriously damaged, a particular body may become unfit for the individual soul's continued presence, and the soul will move on to its next destination.

Heaven and hell are relative concepts within the world of duality - and neither one is eternal. The eternal abode full of transcendental bliss and knowledge is completey beyond all birth, death, and suffering.

Although material suffering is all too real, the individual soul can get immediate relief from miseries by surrendering to the will of the Supreme Soul, via the guidance of His pure representative.

The goal is to get the hell out of the material universes - all of which are essentially places of misery, death - and only flickering happiness.

Real happiness is neverending - and dependent on realizing our devotional relationship to the Supreme Person.
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