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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Interesting electoral college reform proposal |
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Why we need to reform the electoral college
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There is a simple solution to the problems created by the Electoral College. The elections of 1876, 1888, and 2000 � elections in which the popular vote winner lost the election were all close, decided by five Electoral College votes or less. But if the winner of the national popular vote were awarded eleven Electoral votes on a winner-take-all basis, the extra eleven votes (twice the five-vote-margin plus one for good measure) would assure that the popular vote victor would also win the Electoral College vote and become President. The eleven would be too few to �nationalize� presidential elections, and the same dynamics that keep the two-party system intact would prevail. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: |
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I like it.
Simply abolishing the electoral college is never going to happen because the small states are never going to relinquish the advantage it gives them. This plan, however, allows them to keep that advantage while making the election more democratic.
It's a change they might be able to swallow. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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you don't stack the deck after the cards have been dealt: play the cards you have
the time to change the electoral system is after the election, in the first half of the term;. the subject should not be broached right before an election |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I think I prefer the idea that each Congressional District award one electoral vote to the majority winner and the state as a whole award it's 2 'extra' electoral votes to the popular vote winner in that state.
I'd also like a provision giving the District of Columbia a number of electoral votes that prevents a tie in the Electoral College. Right now they have 3 votes and it's possible to have a 269-269 tie. Give them one more (or less) electoral vote. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I think I prefer the idea that each Congressional District award one electoral vote to the majority winner and the state as a whole award it's 2 'extra' electoral votes to the popular vote winner in that state. |
I believe they did such an analysis after a recent election, and it gave Republicans a bigger edge. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I think I prefer the idea that each Congressional District award one electoral vote to the majority winner and the state as a whole award it's 2 'extra' electoral votes to the popular vote winner in that state. |
That's fine, but each state has to make that determination on their own.
The 11-vote idea is a great compromise for those of us who want to keep the electoral college to make with those who have legitimate complaints and worries about its shortcomings. I am fine with the current system, but if its either break the electoral college or this amendment, I'd definitely go with the amendment. |
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Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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This is my favorite defense of the Electoral College:
Fed. 68 Publius |
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