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Where can Conservatives threaten to move if McCain loses?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Where can Conservatives threaten to move if McCain loses? Reply with quote

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The Conservative's Canada
Where can Republicans threaten to move if Obama wins?


Conservatives have no Canada. Which is to say, they have no mythical land of ideological soul mates to which they can flee to nurse their wounds and commiserate over lost elections and flunked initiatives....

They have no backup plan for when the country they live in becomes politically unrecognizable.

Maybe they need one.

But everyone needs a Plan B, even if they have no intention of carrying it out�just in case, say, Barack Obama appoints Michael Moore to the Supreme Court (the way President Gore did). With that in mind, let's consider a few candidates for the conservative's Canada.


http://www.slate.com/id/2202070/

Read the article for the candidate countries. Don't stop at the end of the article--there's more from readers, including this gem:
Nigeria garnered a surprising number of votes as well from readers who thought libertarian-minded Republicans would benefit from the African nation's lawlessness and penchant for piracy. One suspects these readers were not overly concerned with the welfare of said conservatives.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alaska
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newteacher



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Georgia...it's about the only country in the world that overwhelmingly supports McCain.
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Jandar



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those kinds of empty threats are reserved for the loons of the left.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite rabble-rouser weighs in on this election campaign:

http://www.slate.com/id/2202163/
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have no backup plan for when the country they live in becomes politically unrecognizable.


This author suffers short-term memory.

Do people truly believe that hard-core conservatives will not immediately play the opposition part the very day that B. Obama potentially steps into the Oval Office? And not stop until he leaves or is thrown out? Do Obama partisans, naive political virgins or not, truly think they might simply win the election and then get a pass for four years? Especially after their treatment of W. Bush these last eight? Or that ultra-conservatives will simply pack their bags and leave the country? ROFL.

An exchange from the Good Shepherd comes to mind; I think it captures many's mindset:

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Joseph Palmi: Let me ask you something... we Italians, we got our families, and we got the church; the Irish, they have the homeland, Jews their tradition; even the niggers, they got their music. What about you people, Mr. Wilson, what do you have?

Edward Wilson: The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.


You could also keep digging into them like that Ya-ta Boy, and see how long it takes them to start pushing back, and how exactly they go about pushing, etc. That or you could focus on positive govt, and cultivate give-and-take, unity, etc. That, however, does not seem the left's style anymore than it is the right's.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the Republicans has the majority in Congress, and when Bush was in Office, the Democrats made life hell.

Now the tables will be turned, if McCain loses.


Just like how the Dems blamed the Republicans for everything wrong with the USthe past 8 years, the Dems will get a taste of their own medicine.

That's right, everytime Oil goes up, unemployment goes up, or Americans soldiers die, the Republicans are going to use the Democrat's playbook and blame the Democrats.

Judging by the way Democrats, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, have run Congress so far, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel with a bazooka.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there are two posters who are suffering from a deficit of humor today.

There are dozens of threads to seriously discuss politics. Please take serious comments to one of them or start a new one. Leave this one for some lightheartedness.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy: you come off as utterly disingenuous when you play that part, especially given your "humor's" ideological slant. And I cannot stand people's humor-at-the-expense-of-others, not on principle, but when they claim to represent sensitivity and tolerance, etc.

At least be honest with your intentions here: you are continuing your usual snicker at the Republican Party and its conservative base, dancing a triumphalist dance (which you may be entitled to, given the polls that I have seen, but nevertheless it remains premature. And someone might just throw this kind of a thread right back in your face should things turn around before November).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
When the Republicans has the majority in Congress, and when Bush was in Office, the Democrats made life hell.

Now the tables will be turned, if McCain loses.


Just like how the Dems blamed the Republicans for everything wrong with the USthe past 8 years, the Dems will get a taste of their own medicine.

That's right, everytime Oil goes up, unemployment goes up, or Americans soldiers die, the Republicans are going to use the Democrat's playbook and blame the Democrats.

Judging by the way Democrats, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, have run Congress so far, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel with a bazooka.


The focus should be on saving America. That's what is important, and the GOP had 8 years to make the lives of the American people better and the economy. For six years the party controlled all three branches of the government. We shouldn't assume that the Democrats will necessarily do the right things and save the country. We know the GOP had a good recently and did a horrible job, so many Americans who normally support the GOP are desperate and are voting for Obama. People are afraid in many ways, and they should be.

It would be easier to blame the Democrats for things going wrong if Obama is elected. Why? Because the democrats would be viewed as completely in charge just as the GOP was in charge during most of Bush's presidency.

No one needs to leave, people don't need a focus on divisions. There is no need for gloating. People need to take a good, close look at all their politicians. Do we really need to have any side gloat?


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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRAN - well, not with that government. But every Iranian I've met is awestruck in love with McCain. They want us to take out that government and bring about western ideals and such. I kid you not, but it is a repetitive pattern I hear among Iranian expats abroad!

But for CONSERVATIVES...there are plenty of states that are ripe with strong strong conservative talk show radio, their own magazines and everything else. They are fine in the Red States. Alaska (as Canuckistan mentioned)! Also nearly ANYWHERE in the South - Tennessee, South Carolina, etc.

The country is still very divided!
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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Do people truly believe that hard-core conservatives will not immediately play the opposition part the very day that B. Obama potentially steps into the Oval Office? And not stop until he leaves or is thrown out? Do Obama partisans, naive political virgins or not, truly think they might simply win the election and then get a pass for four years? Especially after their treatment of W. Bush these last eight? Or that ultra-conservatives will simply pack their bags and leave the country? ROFL.


Nope, but we've taken copious notes about how to respond. Why wait? Let's just get started now:

You don't disagree with Yata, you just hate Obama.
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agentX



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would any country in the world want to host a bunch of Republicans? They're garbage. We send enough waste overseas as is.

But if they truly want to avoid the "Obama Revolution" then they can go see the fruits of their labors up close and in person: Iraq.

Hey, those Republicans did say they would be greeted as liberators. And they've been whining/claiming that the "surge" has worked. We've spent billions of dollars propping up that country. Therefore, they should move to Baghdad or Fallujah and reap what they have helped sown. I hear BlackWater's hiring.

Of course, there will be some "dead-enders" still stalking around the country, clinging to a dead regime and hopes of a Caliphate. But hey, we can't things too easy for the Dems. Then again, the last time a Dem was in office, the Rethugs had a habit of blowing up buildings and killing people they didn't like. So, hopefully all those new laws the Rethugs wrote and passed (Patriot Act, H.R. 1955) will be put to full force against them.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Middle East IS a great place for conservatives! As liberators, we have cleaned the region free of terrorists.

Eight years now and it is perfect for large companies to go in and reap the benefits. Most of America's JOBS and MONEY are being sent there as well. Why not go where the American money goes, it certainly isn't in the States and hasn't been for the last eight years.

In addition to the large U.S. treasury that gets spent there everyday, it is also fundamentalist conservative, just the way God intended!
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Neil



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
When the Republicans has the majority in Congress, and when Bush was in Office, the Democrats made life hell.

Now the tables will be turned, if McCain loses.


Just like how the Dems blamed the Republicans for everything wrong with the USthe past 8 years, the Dems will get a taste of their own medicine.

That's right, everytime Oil goes up, unemployment goes up, or Americans soldiers die, the Republicans are going to use the Democrat's playbook and blame the Democrats.

Judging by the way Democrats, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, have run Congress so far, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel with a bazooka.


I've been thinking along these lines, with the next 4 years having this economic mess and a withdrawal from Iraq which could be messy this would be a good election to lose. My tin foil hat thinks maybe this could be the reason for the half hearted rep campaign so far......lose this one and return in 2012 on a landslide after everything is messed up (I've long believed this was the UK conservatives plan in 1992, alas for them they accidently won so it backfired on them).

As for the OPs question, why not Korea? Rightish admin and an ineffectual leftist opposition....plus you could join the nationalists of various countries on daves banging on about how x country is the best, avoiding the fact that you left at the first opportunity.
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