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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In a more controversial bit:


Controversial? Are you claiming that maybe Haider isn't dead?
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mises



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehhhhhhhhhhh
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tom Coyner and Others Explain Why Korean Tourism Campaigns Fail and Fail and Fail

�Visit Korea� campaigns have happened in 1994, 2001 with mixed success, and now are planned again for 2010-12. But will anything change? Has it?

Tom Coyner breaks down many things wrong with Korean country branding and comes to the same conclusion that I and many other foreigners do: Korean bureaucrats and ego-strapped senior people make up everything from strategy to the slogans in a bubble, without even consulting the very people to whom the campaigns are aimed at, which is a serious problem.

And as Korea launches �Visit Korea Campaign 2010-2012� and Bae Yong-jun has been chosen, for whatever reason, to be the �ambassador� for the campaign, there have been responses from more prominent foreigners about the situation.

One set of suggestions come from David Mason, who suggests another angle on tourism: that of Korea�s religious and spiritual destinations. I didn�t know much about that, and it sounds like pretty interesting stuff to me. I just edited an article submitted to the Korea Journal (don�t know whether it�s been approved yet) talking about the spike in temple stays and how they have unexpectedly become quite successful parts of the tourist industry, or at least have the potential. I do hope it ends up getting approved. It�s interesting stuff.

He also presents a list of much more specific suggestions, and it�s a great start. Too bad nobody ever seems to listen to foreigners with the good advice; for that to happen, the labyrinthine levels of bureaucratic inertia, on top of fear of losing face and an air of authority between each level of the hierarchy, combined with a general air of hubris that keeps whatever organization disconnected from any kind of check with reality � these would all have to disappear.

And those things aren�t going anywhere, anytime soon.

Until the basic attitude � the disconnect between what Koreans think foreigners should see about Korea and what foreigners actually want to see � is destroyed, the drop in foreign tourists will continue, and Korea will never really go beyond what it is now � a rest stop on the way to or from either China or Japan.

Any other thoughts on the issue? On the off chance that anyone in the big offices over at City Hall might read this, what say you on this topic?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Ammm ... ammm ...a mmmmeeeee ...ammmeeeeerrr ... Reply with quote

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Alright, the CE first page is about 95% America related. Sure, the election in interesting and America is powerful (and yes, some are myopically focused on the US) but it is damn annoying now.

This thread is about non-American topics. You may NOT, under any circumstances, mention the United States in this thread. Please heed this.

Post anything on any topic, less the USA. I'll start.


Teachurrrr, "Am ... Am ... Am ..."

Mises, "No, don't do it Poppy!"

Teachurrrr, "Amm ... Ammm ... Ammm ..."

Mises, "No Poppy Noooo!"

Teachurrrr, "Ammm erica! There, I said it! Come on everybody, let's break out in song "Simpson's style." Evvvverybody ready ...

God Bless America
Words and music by Irving Berlin

"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. "

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.
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America the Beautiful
Words by Katharine Lee Bates,
Melody by Samuel Ward

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare of freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife.
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!

O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
Whose stem impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through
wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!

O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife
When once and twice,
for man's avail
Men lavished precious life!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain
The banner of the free!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!
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Star Spangled Banner (American National Anthem)
Words by Francis Scott Key

Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars,
through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched,
were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets red glare,
the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night,
That our flag was still there,

Oh say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave,
O'er the land of the free
and the home of the brave.

On the shore dimly seen throughout the mists of the deep
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes
What is that which the breeze o'er the towering steep
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream.
`Tis the Star-Spangled Banner, Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so hauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and country, shall leave us no more?
Their blood was washed out their foul foot steps pollution
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave.
And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh thus be it e'er when free men shall stand
Between their loved homes and war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that has made and preserved us a nation
And conquer we must when our cause is just
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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Uh ... Sorry Mises ... Embarassed I couldn't help myself ... I have too much time on my hands this morning since all the students are on fieldtrips. Sorry. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

If this helps, maybe the Korean Tourism Campaign should give special travel incentives to now-free Chinese indigent farmers while focusing more exclusively on monied Western females working in Human Resource Departments. They could give a coupon for a free beer at the Haider Hate Bar opening up next to the Hitler Bar in Busan! Very Happy All is bliss! Wink Cheers!
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No prob. America does have the best national anthems etc.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nepal in a bind after the Mumbai attacks.

Lets see if we can keep this thread going.
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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/28/2455661.htm?section=justin

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The army officer who seized power in Guinea after the death of President Lansana Conte earlier this week has opened talks with political leaders aimed at justifying his coup.

Captain Moussa Dadis Camara said he would tackle corruption and announced a review of mining contracts in Guinea, which has major bauxite and iron ore deposits.

Captain Camara has promised to hold elections in 2010.

Some opposition parties have welcomed the military takeover and neighbouring Senegal has urged the international community to recognise the new government.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you all see that Turkmen is now an official language in Kerkuk too? That was about four days ago.
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