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[On the other hand]

I think that Obama will win, but this supposed turning of the tide in red states(see the link below) will by and large not pan out. I'm usually not one to second-guess polling trends reported by credible outfits, but I just don't see as many Republicans as are being predicted going over to the Democrats. I wouldn't neccessarily say it'll be the "Bradley Effect" at play, just that when push comes to shove, a lot of conservatives, disgruntled with McCain though they may be, are gonna get cold feet about supporting someone like Obama when they step into the ballot booth.

Sarah Palin will not sink into obscurity following the election, but will instead have a more-or-less respectable side career in media and/or politics, over and above her governership of Alaska. The public will actually warm up to her, once the prospect of her holding actual power in Washington is no longer a threat on the horizon.

http://tinyurl.com/4po5k7

[Adventurer]

[mises]

I believe McCain will win. I'm 70% on this and not being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

I think they could pull the anti-immigration card with 12 hours to go and win. Among others. And they'll prolly steal it, anyhow.

[On the other hand]

[mises]

I think McCain could say "forgot my last opinion. Elect me and the Mexicans go home" and he would win. If he actually enforced this, he would win again.

About stealing, I figure several million blacks and poor people will show up in important districts in Ohio, Penn, Florida etc and find themselves unable to vote. Like the last two elections that were jacked. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

This blog follows the problems:

http://www.bradblog.com

[On the other hand]

[Adventurer]

One thing you all should remember that if Obama wins the states Kerry carried in 2004 and also takes Iowa as he is predicted to do and carries Ohio or Florida on top of that, then McCain is finished. The Jewish vote is beginning to swing toward Obama in Florida. That's not good for McCain. Bush barely won New Mexico, and it is doubtful McCain will be able to carry it when Bush barely did and the GOP is less popular. At the moment, Missouri is a toss up state. It was rather close in the last election. McCain is vulnerable in many areas, because the person who is handing him the baton, so to speak, is George Bush, and it's viewed as tainted by so many. He can't escape that fact anymore than Gore could escape Bill Clinton handed him a tainted baton. I am going with Obama, but McCain can turn things around, but he is fighting an uphill battle, and it is not his fault. He is a good candidate, but the timing is wrong for him.

[Kuros]

The 2004 election was stolen? What a load of crap.

[Gopher]

Why did the Republicans decline to or fail to steal in 2006?

I find the entire "stolen election" charge nonsense. Some people do not know how to lose.

[Ya-ta Boy]

Barring a huge stumble on Obama's part, he's going to win. Probably win big. It looks to me like he'll be over 350 in the Electoral College. I suspect that he's going to have pretty long coattails, too. I think Republican turnout may be smaller than expected in many solid Obama states because people will say, "What's the use?" I say that because of a comment by Gov. Crist of Florida speaking of McCain when he cancelled a joint appearance at a McCain rally in favor of going to Disney World: "When I have time to help, I�ll try to do that."

Palin will return to obscurity. She hasn't shown that she has the stuff to remain on the national stage.

[Kuros]

[Gopher]

Precisely. Also, I support McCain-Palin. But please do not confuse with with a McCain-Palin, and especially not with a Palin, partisan. There is a difference.

I sense what is coming from the far right, given B. Obama's, at this time, probable electoral victory. And I disagree with it just as strongly as I disagree with the far left's treatment of W. Bush these last eight years.

[Adventurer]

[Adventurer]

As far as stealing elections, we haven't had any proof of that. I used to think that was simply a conspiracy theory, but I have read many reports
of such fraud. Are the stories all simply untrue.

Is it true that thousands of democrats didn't have enough polling stations in Ohio? Is it true as the news reported that some Republican connected organization shredded thousands of ballots? If that occured, that's certainly fraud.

There were so many reports of fraud mostly emanating from the GOP. Now, the GOP isn't the first party to engage in massive voter fraud. LBJ engaged in it in the old days. It just seems quite possible that the GOP in 2004 made LBJ look like a cub scout. The polls showed that Kerry won the election, and the results were diametrically different from the polls by a significant margin, and there is no real rational reason for such a discrepancy. So, it is not simply a wild, conspiracy theory. Also, disproportionately it seems blacks were taking off the voting rolls.

vhttp://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/2004votefraud_ohio.html?q=2004votefraud_ohio.html

Ohio's Secretary of State announced [on December 14, 2007] that a $1.9 million official study shows that "critical security failures" are embedded throughout the voting systems in the state that decided the 2004 election. Those failures, she says, "could impact the integrity of elections in the Buckeye State." They have rendered Ohio's vote counts "vulnerable" to manipulation and theft by "fairly simple techniques."

[Ya-ta Boy]