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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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justaguy
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May?????????
What is this post about? Either they can or can't.
Stop taking up space. |
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Bibbitybop
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Location: Seoul
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justaguy, read the article then critic the newspaper or the government. BassExpander contributes wonderful information to teachers in Korea. What is this post about? Read the information linked.
The biggest problem with the visa waiver program, as countries with existing visa waiver programs will exclaim, is that entry into the USA is permitted by the individual immigration agent at the airport (or border). Italy is a good example. You can still be turned away at the border, or even detained for days at a time with no reason or explanation.
$2500 round-trip to the US from Korea is hefty price to pay, especially if Joe Six-pack at the border didn't get warm Pop Tarts this morning and denies your entry. |
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Socks
Joined: 15 May 2008
Location: somewhere in here...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing new -
Koreans have always been going to the USA without a visa for many, many years...
(Guam is USA..... Koreans have been going to Guam (USA) without a visa for many years)..... |
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| If New Zealanders can go to USA without a visa (as we have for a long time), why wouldn't koreans? |
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bluelake
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Some South Korean lawyers claim that sharing criminal records of citizens is in violation of basic human rights, while Washington insists it is one of the basic standards to be met by those countries wanting to join the VWP to help protect American nationals and interests from terrorists or criminals. |
Hmmm... |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Some South Korean lawyers claim that sharing criminal records of citizens is in violation of basic human rights, while Washington insists it is one of the basic standards to be met by those countries wanting to join the VWP to help protect American nationals and interests from terrorists or criminals. |
Hmmm... |
But I guess it is OK for us lowly foriegners to share our details with immi here, huh? What a bunch of hypocritical racists! We need to turn over CBCs now, health checks to make sure we are not AIDS infested, and what next? Footprints? Brain scans? Shock therapy to rid our minds of anything NOT Korean? |
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travelingfool
Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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I wonder how many will simply overstay their visas? How many will come to the US to have anchor babies? They do it in Guam quite often. Automatic US citizenship. There are tons of illegal alien Koreans in LA. In fact, several of them lead some marches demanding amnesty. Oh the irony.......
Criminal background checks? Why? Koreans don't commit crimes, only foreigners do. Aids tests? That's a foreigner's disease! Hey guys, I am not being a dick.....these are actually some things my students have said to me. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
The biggest problem with the visa waiver program, as countries with existing visa waiver programs will exclaim, is that entry into the USA is permitted by the individual immigration agent at the airport (or border). Italy is a good example. You can still be turned away at the border, or even detained for days at a time with no reason or explanation. |
Yup, and I think people often forget this. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| travelingfool wrote: |
I wonder how many will simply overstay their visas? How many will come to the US to have anchor babies? They do it in Guam quite often. Automatic US citizenship. There are tons of illegal alien Koreans in LA. In fact, several of them lead some marches demanding amnesty. Oh the irony.......
Criminal background checks? Why? Koreans don't commit crimes, only foreigners do. Aids tests? That's a foreigner's disease! Hey guys, I am not being a dick.....these are actually some things my students have said to me. |
hahaha...It's probably in their middle and high school history textbooks. A Korean guy told me when I asked him about it, that yes, their history books say that only Koreans can eat Korean food and/or spicy foods. Whatever.  I just got a nice bottle of hot sauce in a package from my Mom and Dad. It has habanero peppers in it, and last night, I was drinking it straight from the bottle. I want to see many Koreans do THAT! I know this one Korean guy, and he has seen me eat kalguksu many times. Every time, he asks me if it isn't too hot. Come on, he's 27 years old. He should be more open-minded than that. I mean, he asks me every freaking time. But he's probably thinking "Gosh, it can't be real what I am seeing. My high school history book can't be wrong". |
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CentralCali
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| "Anchor babies" aren't the blessing they used to be since the US changed Immigration laws years ago. It used to be the case the parent could sign for the baby on the parent's immigration application with the baby as sponsor. That's not permissible now. For one thing, the sponsor has to provide proof that they can support the parent on the sponsor's income. Last I heard, a newborn baby has no income. |
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aphase
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Socks wrote: |
Nothing new -
Koreans have always been going to the USA without a visa for many, many years...
(Guam is USA..... Koreans have been going to Guam (USA) without a visa for many years)..... |
I don't know, the definition of U.S.A is United States of America, and well, the keyword there being States, Guam isn't a state. Yeah it's a territory, but you seemed to want to get technical, so here is my technical response. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
The biggest problem with the visa waiver program, as countries with existing visa waiver programs will exclaim, is that entry into the USA is permitted by the individual immigration agent at the airport (or border). Italy is a good example. You can still be turned away at the border, or even detained for days at a time with no reason or explanation. |
Yup, and I think people often forget this. |
And let me give you a very painful example, only from London.
My wife's sister lived and worked in London. She had a visa. She went on vacation to Italy. Her purse was stolen. She lost everything... managed to get back to London, but had no passport. She didn't have money in Italy, and didn't have a place to stay. She didn't shower for a day or two and looked like hell. The immigration people in Heathrow didn't believe her and WOULD NOT LET HER ENTER. They said, "You have no passport, you have no visa..." She was DEPORTED to Korea. All of her stuff was in an apartment in London! She was barred from future entry because of some stipulation that if you are barred once, you don't get back in (so she told my wife). Her friends had to sell her stuff off in London, and of course, she lost her job.
Pure hell, and terribly embarrassing. She won't even tell my mother-in-law about it. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
The biggest problem with the visa waiver program, as countries with existing visa waiver programs will exclaim, is that entry into the USA is permitted by the individual immigration agent at the airport (or border). Italy is a good example. You can still be turned away at the border, or even detained for days at a time with no reason or explanation. |
Yup, and I think people often forget this. |
And let me give you a very painful example, only from London.
My wife's sister lived and worked in London. She had a visa. She went on vacation to Italy. Her purse was stolen. She lost everything... managed to get back to London, but had no passport. She didn't have money in Italy, and didn't have a place to stay. She didn't shower for a day or two and looked like hell. The immigration people in Heathrow didn't believe her and WOULD NOT LET HER ENTER. They said, "You have no passport, you have no visa..." She was DEPORTED to Korea. All of her stuff was in an apartment in London! She was barred from future entry because of some stipulation that if you are barred once, you don't get back in (so she told my wife). Her friends had to sell her stuff off in London, and of course, she lost her job.
Pure hell, and terribly embarrassing. She won't even tell my mother-in-law about it. |
Damn, that is rough, and I was thinking of visiting Italy on my next overseas trip. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| travelingfool wrote: |
| I wonder how many will simply overstay their visas? How many will come to the US to have anchor babies? |
How is this any different from what they do now? Plenty overstay already. Birth tours are "big" business here. Just ask Lee Hoi-chang's sons. |
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