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Gopher

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Your writing is not clear, Gopher. |
Then B. Obama is going to make my writing clear. He is going to teach us all literacy. If the Republicans steal the election, B. Obama is going to fly around the planet until it turns backwards so that he can catch them in the act and put a stop to it. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| Your writing is not clear, Gopher. |
Then B. Obama is going to make my writing clear. He is going to teach us all literacy. If the Republicans steal the election, B. Obama is going to fly around the planet until it turns backwards so that he can catch them in the act and put a stop to it. |
Are you implying that we are naive if we believe that Obama may be our best to help fix the problems on Wall Street and the economy at large?
We didn't really do better with the GOP in power. We don't have much of a choice. It's either someone from the elephant party or someone from the donkey party. So far, we've been kicked around by the donkey, and the elephant took an elephant-sized crap on us. Laugh that one off, Gopher.  |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I think McCain could say "forgot my last opinion. Elect me and the Mexicans go home" and he would win. If he actually enforced this, he would win again. |
Never happen. McCain was trying to pass legislation to get them all legal. That was a BIG PROBLEM that the base had with him earlier this year. If he turned around and changed on that, it would be a nightmare of distrust with what he really wants and why.
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I predict McCain is going to do a Bob Dole. Within five years, he will be doing commericals for penile disfunction and who knows what else.
Sarah Palin will become a celebrity...and relish in it. I see her becoming Senator Palin in the future. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Sarah Palin will become a celebrity...and relish in it. I see her becoming Senator Palin in the future. |
Yeah, and in the meantime, I could definitely see her hosting a talk show on FOX or being "the Right" on Crossfire(is that still on?) |
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aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008 Location: Down by the river
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: |
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I think Obama will win. He'll win Virginia, which is exceptional. Some sort of national health care sytsem will be enacted. The recession won't be a depression, but it will be a serious one.
By the end of Obama's first term, it will have subsided.
Financial/economic/evironmental regulation will be overhauled.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-econpoll15-2008oct15,0,5644119.story |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Whoever mentioned Palin becoming a celebrity may be on to something. I can see her on Dancing With the Stars and maybe even winning it. She was athletic in high school, so why not?
I was hoping someone would give an example of her political skills to persuade me she has a future in politics. So far she's appealed to the religious right, who had no where else to go. She even persuaded women to postpone their desire to have a woman at the top to go with the Democrats. As for a political future, I could see her appointing herself to Senator Stevens' seat if he's convicted. That is conceivable. I can't see her 'you betcha' style going over too big in the Senate, though.
I'm not going to say absolutely that she won't have a political future. Equally bizarre things have happened before. Wasn't it said about Bush that he had failed at the only three jobs he'd ever held before he became governor?
Anyway, Sarah Palin. Gertrude Stein said, in another context: "There is no there there." I think that sums up Palin pretty well. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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From Mises' Bradblog...
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Golly, for a group that's committed so much "voter fraud" for so long (if you're gullible enough to believe the lies that RNC/FNC has been telling you) it's mighty strange that, as News One notes, "McCain attended an ACORN convention just two years ago."
The once-honorable Republican's campaign has even seen fit to produce a video smear ad, attempting to tar Obama with "associations" with ACORN, and alleging the group has committed "massive voter fraud" to boot! (They've yet to produce any actual evidence for that, unfortunately.)
But more than just attending the ACORN-sponsored February 2006 rally, ACORN confirms in a statement today that McCain was actually the keynote speaker!
So now, they wonder, why it is that McCain seems to have "lost that loving feeling"?
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Holy christ. McCain's cronies funded Ayers, and McCain himself spoke at an ACORN wingding. What next? Will we soon be learning that John and Cindy were married by Jeremiah Wright at Barack Obama sr.'s mosque with Tony Rezko as the best man? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I was hoping someone would give an example of her political skills to persuade me she has a future in politics. |
She survived being on a stage next Joe Biden for 90 minutes. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I was hoping someone would give an example of her political skills to persuade me she has a future in politics. |
She survived being on a stage next Joe Biden for 90 minutes. |
Since Joe couldn't be aggressive with her without being charged with being a sexist and a bully, I'll accept your surrender on this point. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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From Mises' Bradblog...
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Golly, for a group that's committed so much "voter fraud" for so long (if you're gullible enough to believe the lies that RNC/FNC has been telling you) it's mighty strange that, as News One notes, "McCain attended an ACORN convention just two years ago."
The once-honorable Republican's campaign has even seen fit to produce a video smear ad, attempting to tar Obama with "associations" with ACORN, and alleging the group has committed "massive voter fraud" to boot! (They've yet to produce any actual evidence for that, unfortunately.)
But more than just attending the ACORN-sponsored February 2006 rally, ACORN confirms in a statement today that McCain was actually the keynote speaker!
So now, they wonder, why it is that McCain seems to have "lost that loving feeling"?
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Holy christ. McCain's cronies funded Ayers, and McCain himself spoke at an ACORN wingding. What next? Will we soon be learning that John and Cindy were married by Jeremiah Wright at Barack Obama sr.'s mosque with Tony Rezko as the best man? |
Here is a video of him speaking to ACORN:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/15/mccain-to-acorn-you.html |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I was hoping someone would give an example of her political skills to persuade me she has a future in politics. |
She survived being on a stage next Joe Biden for 90 minutes. |
Since Joe couldn't be aggressive with her without being charged with being a sexist and a bully, I'll accept your surrender on this point. |
She's got political talent. She just doesn't have any knowledge to back it. There's no 'proof' I can offer that would be untainted by subjectivism. But she knows what to say to her people, and how to say it.
Again, political talent is separate from governing talent. |
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