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This woman needs to be president of Korea...now

 
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: This woman needs to be president of Korea...now Reply with quote

sing it from the mountain sistah!

http://koreabeat.com/?p=2442
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: This woman needs to be president of Korea...now Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
sing it from the mountain sistah!

http://koreabeat.com/?p=2442


Hopefully parents start realizing this en mass.

The problem is, and we've all met our fair share of them during our hagwon days, many parents think that greater quantity and greater quality are one and the same. I agreed with one of the comments in the article about some kind of government intervention being necessary.

What we have here is the largest scale of child abuse in the developed world and nothing is being done about it! Since I've been here it seems like nothing positive has happened to this businesses. As a consequence on them, education as a whole is suffering as are the children.

She made a great point: education should be enjoyable. Kids should be able to enjoy their education. They should also have the chance to enjoy their lives outside of school and pursue hobbies. Korea makes damn sure that you don't do any of this.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An expensive education is like owning an expensive car in other countries (or here). Koreans won't stop throwing money away at businesses like the ones most of us work at, because it would lower their social status among their peers.
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Ronald



Joined: 14 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then where will you work? You make your living off the sweat off young kids backs like everyone else here.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Ronald. Everyone here, EVERYONE, works for a hagwon.
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Ronald



Joined: 14 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all connected. One feeds the other. Hagwons keeps the Public schools sh**ty, Public schools keep the college's shi**ty, and Universities keep the hagwans in business. If you're not in ESL, well I guess you though Dave's "ESL" meant something else.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald wrote:
It's all connected. One feeds the other. Hagwons keeps the Public schools sh**ty, Public schools keep the college's shi**ty, and Universities keep the hagwans in business. If you're not in ESL, well I guess you though Dave's "ESL" meant something else.


I don't teach kids; am I allowed to say I agree with the article, Ronald?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run my own hagwon and I even agree with the the article.

The problem is not necessarily the after school programs though, it is the way they are being run.

Children are constantly being monitored and pressured into "learning", while children have a natural tendency to learn, they are curious.

Teaching them to take tests, testing them constantly, creates an atmosphere that limits the imagination of children.

So my school does not operate as such. We don't test, we don't set limits, we don't pressure. We focus on attitude and behavior, give them an environment where they can freely express whatever is on their minds. To keep the parents happy, we do "assessments" of the children. We keep our eyes and ears open during class, and write reports on the childrens' progress.

Not only do they improve their communication ability in English, it seems also that these children are actually improving their character as well.

To say that after school education is bad per se would be limiting the possibilities. I do believe that after school programs have their uses.
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