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Chamchiman



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Technical Pension Question Reply with quote

I know the pension contribution is 4.5%, but I thought it was calculated on gross income. My school says no.

They told me that income tax doesn't actually kick in until an earnings level of around 8 million or so, which brings my total taxable income down to around 20 million for the year. It's this non-taxable income that is used for the 4.5% calculation. (As a result, my total pension contribution is around 60,000 per month lower than I thought it would be.)

Is this correct?

Thanks.
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Teachurrrr



Joined: 21 May 2008
Location: Parts Unknown

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Contact your local pension office! Reply with quote

It doesn't sound correct to me. There may be a better way to handle this, but one way is to have a Korean friend or someone who speaks Korean call 1355 (National Pension Office) on your behalf.

Try to get the address and phone number of your local Pension Office. Go there (with Korean friend would be most helpful). Write your situation/questions on a piece of paper and give it to them. Include the phone number of your place of employment.

The Pension officer will tell you what is correct. I would think he or she would also call your hagwon to inform them of the proper procedure. If not, ask the person at Pension for a short letter (Han Gul Mal) explaining the correct procedure of deduction so you can take this to your employer. Make sure you keep a copy.

After the next pay period, if this is not cleared up to your satisfaction, recount the events on paper, gather your copy from pension and go to the Labor Board. One way or the other, they will have to make the proper deduction and meet that contribution. Good luck!
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your boss or who ever in charge of finance is on drugs.

Pension deduction must be made on gross income before any other deductions. 4.5% from your gross income and 4.5% contribution from your employer, 9% total.

Like the other poster said, contact NPS and get it straightened out.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hakwons are notorious for underpaying pension (if they do at all in many instances). My old school did everything in the book to save themselves money with employee pension, taxes, HC, etc...(under paying pension, over charging me for taxes and HC) They were paying those things but not correctly. I called them out on each of things after getting the info that I needed from the proper public offices. I'd do as others suggested and get it straightened out with NPS.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In your FIRST year of a contract your pension contribution is based on your gross salary (since this is your taxable salary) and you have no deductions or settlement to reduce it.

In your 2nd and subsequent years your GROSS SALARY calculation is reduced by ~30% and your pension and tax contributions are based on the settlement from the previous year.

Hope that helps a bit.

You can get specific information from the pension office (tel: 1355).
http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/main.jsp

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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
In your FIRST year of a contract your pension contribution is based on your gross salary (since this is your taxable salary) and you have no deductions or settlement to reduce it.

In your 2nd and subsequent years your GROSS SALARY calculation is reduced by ~30% and your pension and tax contributions are based on the settlement from the previous year.

Hope that helps a bit.

You can get specific information from the pension office (tel: 1355).
http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/main.jsp

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Huh?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
In your FIRST year of a contract your pension contribution is based on your gross salary (since this is your taxable salary) and you have no deductions or settlement to reduce it.

In your 2nd and subsequent years your GROSS SALARY calculation is reduced by ~30% and your pension and tax contributions are based on the settlement from the previous year.

Hope that helps a bit.

You can get specific information from the pension office (tel: 1355).
http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/main.jsp

.


Huh?


The first 30% of your salary (starting in year 2) is tax exempt (unless you are in the tax exempt class (PS teacher with less than 2 years in Korea and NOT Canadian)).

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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
In your FIRST year of a contract your pension contribution is based on your gross salary (since this is your taxable salary) and you have no deductions or settlement to reduce it.

In your 2nd and subsequent years your GROSS SALARY calculation is reduced by ~30% and your pension and tax contributions are based on the settlement from the previous year.

Hope that helps a bit.

You can get specific information from the pension office (tel: 1355).
http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/main.jsp

.


Huh?


The first 30% of your salary (starting in year 2) is tax exempt (unless you are in the tax exempt class (PS teacher with less than 2 years in Korea and NOT Canadian)).

.


I've heard of the 30% tax exempt thing. A few people on this site a while back were saying that, but I think they were assuming that it would be on the first year as well. Or they said that they got the 30% thing even in their first year when they filed taxes. Can't be sure of what they said. Anyway, could you work here for a year, finish your contract and not re-sign, not work here for a period of time, and then come back and start working again and get the 30% of your salary tax exempt for the remaining time that you work in Korea?

I've never filed my taxes here and I'm thinking it would be a good thing for me if I did. I stand to get a fair chunk of change back. The only trick is proving my income. I have some pay slips that I had my boss give me, but I don't have all of them. And he didn't give me one every month. I guess it would be somewhat of a paperwork nightmare for someone. Still wouldn't hurt to go to the tax office and start from there. I'm going to get on that.
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