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xpat



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Vista chief declares war on Apple: Beware the "Apple ta Reply with quote

Brad Brooks, vice president of Windows Consumer Product Marketing at Microsoft, has gone on the offensive against Vista bashers, Apple and Linux as he personally "draws a line in the sand" and starts fighting for Windows Vista.
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Sleepy in Seoul



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Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is someone feeling threatened?
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Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gasp! Apples are needlessly expensive and succeed through aggressive advertising that doesn't really explain anything about the product!? I'd better get writing! People need to know!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the thing apple is not really a big success if you compare it to MS.

Ms gets a lot of flack from stupid apple. To be honest with MS products are light ages ahead of apple.

They are more stable, secure, robust, compatible, with a lot features Apple would love to wish for.

I hate those gay ass Apple commercials..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
I hate those gay ass Apple commercials..


But Macs can talk to the new camera from Japan! Try doing THAT on PC!
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sofaking



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:

They are more stable, secure, robust, compatible, with a lot features Apple would love to wish for.


Are you talking about the fruit or the computer?????
PC's more stable?????
more secure?????

I want some of that stuff you are smokin'
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sofaking wrote:
Temporary wrote:

They are more stable, secure, robust, compatible, with a lot features Apple would love to wish for.


Are you talking about the fruit or the computer?????
PC's more stable?????
more secure?????

I want some of that stuff you are smokin'


Stable -- well, everybody has stories about machines crashing and I don't know any unbiased source. In my own experience, the last apple I used crashed a whole lot. I'm sure you have stories the other way.

Secure -- yep.

http://www.macworld.com/article/57616/2007/04/daizovi.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Vista-More-Secure-than-Mac-OS-X-49487.shtml
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eamo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philosophically speaking, there seem to be two kinds of people. Apple people and PC people. They both have a different set of priorities.

Apple user;
1. Style
2. function
3. price


PC user;
1. Function
2. price
3. style.

See? Reversed priorities.

I've never placed style over function. To some people though, that's important. Look at those awful, garish Prada cellphones. It's just a cellphone but it's dressed-up all designer-like.

This is why it's useless to do spec comparisons between Mac and PC's. Mac users don't care that much about specs. If they did they would buy a PC. A $1000 PC wipes the floor with a $1000 Mac. If it's shiny, thin, expensive, and has the Apple logo on it, they buy it.
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swigs



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see Mac as a practical tool for people who are not as tech savy and use their computer for a few specific needs. Such as people in the creative industry. They do not need their computer to do everything, just a few very important tasks. Which Macs do well, with out a bunch of 3rd party apps slowing it down.

MS is more versatile and practical if you need diverse computing needs. Many windows functions are hidden beneath the surface. Functions that Mac will claim that they came out with first, etc. And the fact that hardware is not standardized means you will not get a universal experience from one hardware set to another. Another thing that scares off the not so tech savy.

The truth is though that they are merging into the same OS via different paths. Both are slowly turning into each other. Mac now has an OK word processor while windows tries on a skirt.

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edit: i do like mac hardware though. It is nice to have a quality standard, my macbook has treated me well for about two years steady. Easy to upgrade ram and HD, which is always nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Style?

Macs used to look cool, cutting edge but they haven't changed much in the past 8 years. The white minimalistic effect is getting old...5 years ago.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the macbook air comes with a SEALED battery.

NO THANKS!!!
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Temporary



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sofaking wrote:
Temporary wrote:

They are more stable, secure, robust, compatible, with a lot features Apple would love to wish for.


Are you talking about the fruit or the computer?????
PC's more stable?????
more secure?????

I want some of that stuff you are smokin'


Well lets see..
PC are way more stable.. Lets look at all the variations of PC's. So many hardware vendors, HP, Dell, OEM, etc.. Custom, differrnt hardware platforms. Windows runs on all of them. Apples ONLY run on Apple hardware only. So yes its more stable. I had macs and they were terrible for stability. Power outage, boom Repair permissions install a new device repair permissions, the dreaded circle of wait. Windows 2K, XP64, Server64, Vista 64 are the most stable OS outthere, that are user friendly.
More secure, Hell yeah. Safari is one of the most UNSAFE browsers out there. Apple releases many more patches for the OS then MS does compared to the user base. Macs can be hacked in minutes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of people who say that Macs don't crash and are super stable just don't DO very much with them. Everyone I've known who had a Mac just used it to browse the internet, write papers, and use first-party applications that came pre-installed.

I worked in a lab that used Macs, and we had more problems with networking and crashes than I ever had on my old Windows 95 computer. They just did not play well with ANYTHING that wasn't Apple brand.
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JustJohn



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*pines for his old amiga*
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I_Am_The_Kiwi



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Macs and PCs are designed for different things. You cant really compare them based on function.

The download fall of MAC is that they are hardware limited by what Apple decides, that is also the advantage cos your getting components that are designed to work together flawlessly - but limited with customization.

PCs are a cheaper price option because more companies develop hardware for them, easily upgradable and customizable. But with all that you start to lose compatibility and seamless integration of hardware as well as being more susceptible to conflicts etc.

Im a PC person myself, simply cos its what a i know, lets me tinker and upgrade.
I dont do extensive design work, and if i do any i can still use PS on my laptop if need be.

As for being secure. Windows will always suffer more attacks because more people use it. That means viruses are written to attack windows machines. Its a simple case of numbers, not security.
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