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Can Republicans REALLY sink this low??
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Can Republicans REALLY sink this low?? Reply with quote
This is so over-the-top racist, I'm half-seriously wondering if it's an "Iron My Shirt" fifth-column operation. But the Republican club in question has apologized for mailing it out, so I guess it's legit. Bizarre.

(I linked to this from Andrew Sullivan who, as I'm sure Kuros will agree, must have gone through a lot of gut-wrenching agony over whether or not to help the McCain camp shoot itself in the mouth.)

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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okay, I don't wanna put any of my American friends on the spot here, but I'm curious about this woman's explanation...

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Fedele said she got the illustration in a number of chain e-mails and decided to reprint it for her members in the Trumpeter newsletter because she was offended that Obama would draw attention to his own race. She declined to say who sent her the e-mails with the illustration.

An Inland Republican women�s group sent out a newsletter showing this fake $10 �food stamp� with Barack Obama�s face on it.
She said she doesn't think in racist terms, pointing out she once supported Republican Alan Keyes, an African-American who previously ran for president.

"I didn't see it the way that it's being taken. I never connected," she said. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."

She said she also wasn't trying to make a statement linking Obama and food stamps, although her introductory text to the illustration connects the two: "Obama talks about all those presidents that got their names on bills. If elected, what bill would he be on????? Food Stamps, what else!"



Just out of curiousity, how plausible do you find it to be that this woman, the head of a political club in California, could be totally unaware of the implications of putting fried chicken and watermelon on a campaign leaflet criticizing a black candidate? I am Canadian, and am aware of that particular stereotype, though admittedly I probably follow American racial issues more closely than most of my countrymen.

The Kool-aid thing I wasn't aware of until I saw the latest Harold and Kumar movie a few weeks back.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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how plausible do you find it to be that this woman, the head of a political club in California, could be totally unaware of the implications


Exactly and precisely as plausible as that 50 year old Georgia Congressman not knowing the implications of 'uppity'. Zero.

The woman is a fool. She sounds as dumb as the daughter of the richest lawyer in town who said, "I'm tired of poor people complaining about how hard their life is. Why don't they get a job?"

I don't get the Kool-Aid reference either. Since the 70's the only thing that has been connected to is the People's Temple true-believer thing where most of the victims happened to be black.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't get the Kool-Aid reference either. Since the 70's the only thing that has been connected to is the People's Temple true-believer thing where most of the victims happened to be black.


As I said, it was referenced in Harold And Kumar, though the reference would probably go over the head of those(like me) who didn't know about the stereotype.

Here is an imdb discussion about the scene in question.

http://tinyurl.com/3op4m7
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ha ha, yeah, Andrew Sullivan is "Of no party or clique," in the same way that Fox News is "Fair and Balanced."

But, man, Fried Chicken and Watermelon on a $10 bill of Food Stamps? Yeah, that's beginning to look a lot like racism. Although she is clearly not racist, because she supported Alan Keyes (which opens her up to worse charges than merely racism).

Sheila Raines wrote:
This is what keeps African-Americans from joining the Republican Party. I'm really hurt. I cried for 45 minutes.


That and the policies.

But here's the thing. I don't think this is how the Republican Party views African-Americans. This is certainly coming from the grassroots. However, the GOP knew this wouldn't fly:

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Warren forwarded an electronic version of the newsletter to the California Republican Party headquarters, where officials also were outraged Wednesday and denounced the illustration.

Hector Barajas, the party's press secretary, said the party chairman likely will have a conversation with Fedele, and Barajas will attend the statewide California Federation of Republican Women conference this weekend in Los Angeles to handle any news media there to cover the controversy.


Its hard to be racist in the internet age and not have it backfire.

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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fox News is fair and balanced.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I heard the guy yell that it was racist as the pop was getting poured, but being Black myself, it still made no sense.


That's from one of the comments from the link OTOH posted. I agree. I've never heard it before either. Maybe it's a California thing???

There's no objective reason for many minorities not being conservative in political views. It's largely the result of incidents like this that keep the GOP overwhelmingly white.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ReeseDog wrote:
Fox News is fair and balanced.


Yeah, I'm sure it must seem that way if you're a Republican.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I went off and did some dishes and chores and this topic kept nagging at me. The more I thought about it, the stranger it seems. The woman must be totally clueless as to how other people think and feel. She must have been busy polishing her silver spoon when they were handing out the empathy gene.

I'm having trouble with the idea she is not racist because she once supported Alan Keyes. Skin color is not an issue when they share a common viewpoint, but when viewpoints differ, first attack the skin tone. Something doesn't add up.