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lostandforgotten



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: xxx Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think? I can speak enough to communicate but I am jealous when I meet a foreigner that can speak fluently. Not ashamed to admit that and I am also not afraid to say "good job" to those who have put the effort into learning Korean...it ain't easy.

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lostandforgotten



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also noticed that non-Korean speaking foreigners never make the effort to learn or speak Korean because they want to be above Korean-speaking foreigners. They're afraid to show interest in Korean because it puts them in a weak position. It's like a power game between the 2 groups. Has anyone observed this too? I thought this whole power game was between Korean males and foreign men but it obviously exists between Korean-speaking foreigners and non-Korean speaking foreigners too. LOL

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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living as an expat it is always to your advantage to know the local language (where ever you are).

NOT knowing how to communicate in an effective manner with those around you does create problems and a minor case of paranoia. (you never know if they are laughing at you, with you or about something entirely different that has NOTHING to do with you).

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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is already hilarious. Just wait until page 5.
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[email protected]



Joined: 25 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im always impressed by folk who can hold a decent conversation in Korean. I think if you're living here for more than two years you really have to put in the effort to learn, you're making life difficult for yourself if you dont.

I was resigned pretty early on to the fact that I was only going to be here for the year so All I can do is read the alphabet a bit and throw a few stock phrases together. I suppouse I could've made more of an effort but figured it wasn't worth it
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[email protected] wrote:
Im always impressed by folk who can hold a decent conversation in Korean. I think if you're living here for more than two years you really have to put in the effort to learn, you're making life difficult for yourself if you dont.

I was resigned pretty early on to the fact that I was only going to be here for the year so All I can do is read the alphabet a bit and throw a few stock phrases together. I suppouse I could've made more of an effort but figured it wasn't worth it


I don't know what the cut off should be. I was here for two years before I started studying Korean seriously. The first year I just thought it was too difficult and the second year I wasted time trying to learn from Korean friends. For the past three years I have been studying solo and making progress even if it it is slow. I think it if you only plan to stay in a country for a year there is no problem with just picking up some useful phrases. But after a year, I think people owe it to themselves and the people of the country they are residing in to take the time to study the language.
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M-su



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I speak awesome Korean, my foreign friends also speak really awesome Korean. I get more chix than them combined, but they are doing alright.

Anyway, life in Korea is a whole lot better now that my Korean is rocking.
My pronunciation is clear and native-like.

I know tons of Korean languge centers, volunteers, K teachers, excellent web sites, study groups, free classes, etc. I know it all.
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Whirlwind



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, I had a good laugh over this one. I'll take my limited Korean over fluency, thank you very much. Seriously, I might be envious if it was a useful langauge like Spanish or something, but Korean will never be a useful language outside of Korea. Plus, do you really want to hear all the trash talk that Koreans do in front of your face? You do know that they openly say things right in front of you...and knowing Korean would only cause you more irritation. In this case, ignorance is truly bliss. Besides, Korean is an awful sounding language.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lostandforgotten wrote:
I also noticed that non-Korean speaking foreigners never make the effort to learn or speak Korean because they want to be above Korean-speaking foreigners. They're afraid to show interest in Korean because it puts them in a weak position. It's like a power game between the 2 groups. Has anyone observed this too?


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Dude, I had a good laugh over this one. I'll take my limited Korean over fluency, thank you very much. Seriously, I might be envious if it was a useful langauge like Spanish or something, but Korean will never be a useful language outside of Korea. Plus, do you really want to hear all the trash talk that Koreans do in front of your face? You do know that they openly say things right in front of you...and knowing Korean would only cause you more irritation. In this case, ignorance is truly bliss. Besides, Korean is an awful sounding language.


And there you have it.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Living as an expat it is always to your advantage to know the local language (where ever you are).

NOT knowing how to communicate in an effective manner with those around you does create problems and a minor case of paranoia. (you never know if they are laughing at you, with you or about something entirely different that has NOTHING to do with you).

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I was eating lunch today with some chicken in a hot sauce-I was the only one who put in on top of the white rice-when should I start to care if they think it's different or funny?
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M-su wrote:
I speak awesome Korean, my foreign friends also speak really awesome Korean. I get more chix than them combined, but they are doing alright.

Anyway, life in Korea is a whole lot better now that my Korean is rocking.
My pronunciation is clear and native-like.

I know tons of Korean languge centers, volunteers, K teachers, excellent web sites, study groups, free classes, etc. I know it all.


No.

You're a know-nothing dumbass.

You are welcome.
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Yangachi



Joined: 17 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You do know that they openly say things right in front of you...and knowing Korean would only cause you more irritation. In this case, ignorance is truly bliss.


So, you claim to speak 'limited' Korean and yet know that Koreans 'openly say things right infront of you'? I speak Korean pretty well and have never heard any of this 'trash talk' that you speak of.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was staying another year I'd be up to my eyeballs in Korean language learning, as it certainly would help with yeo-ja. I doff my hats to you all who can swing it, but the time commitment for me is way too much. I can do past present future and the major modals, after that I've quit.

For the time I've been here (8 months) and the amount of formal study I've done (5 weeks) I think my Korean is pretty good, but a decent ratio doesn't mean squat when you're trying to woo a local.
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yangachi wrote:
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You do know that they openly say things right in front of you...and knowing Korean would only cause you more irritation. In this case, ignorance is truly bliss.


So, you claim to speak 'limited' Korean and yet know that Koreans 'openly say things right infront of you'? I speak Korean pretty well and have never heard any of this 'trash talk' that you speak of.


Me too. Sometimes people comment on things; general things like, "oh, he's tall", or "look at his huge shoes!" But that's about it.

It's funny how it's always the people who can speak Korean just a little bit who claim that Koreans talk trash about them.

I'm not saying that Koreans never say anything bad, but just that it happens less than you might suspect.
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