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TopalovVeselin
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 Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: If John McCain was president which country would he invade? |
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| John McCain is old and I'm afraid he would have a serious "mental lapse" due to his current age. If that were the case, he would probably invade North Korea or Iran first. What are your thoughts? |
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sharkey
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| russia, without even thinking about it. Get stomped and withdraw |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I think he would be so focused on the economy that at most he would be hung up on Irag and Afghanistan. Ha, no, I'm just kidding! He would don a Klan robe and send the military into brown people countries under the Stars and Bars of the Rebel flag. Yee haw |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| If insane John McCain is elected there is no doubt that more people on this planet will be killed by the American war machine. 3rd worlders watch out! |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| The Hammer wrote: |
| If insane John McCain is elected there is no doubt that more people on this planet will be killed by the American war machine. 3rd worlders watch out! |
There seems only a slight chance of J. McCain's winning the election at this point, so I hope you might relax.
In any case, what exactly do you see B. Obama doing? Not "killing more people on this planet by the American war machine?" What do you believe he will do in foreign affairs, especially in the Third World? Mind you, his predecessors include: W. Wilson, FDR, H. Truman, JFK, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, and B. Clinton -- and today, Zbigniew Brzezinski is advising him on national security.
Let me be sure you understand my point. My politics here are well-known, as is my own refusal to stand with most of those who stand near and nearly all of those who support B. Obama because I find them beyond annoying and intolerable. But I do not see any leadership problems whatsoever in world affairs, or any harm to the American position, under the Obama Administration. In fact, I predict he will do at least as well as B. Clinton. In other words, not the kind of change that you people seem to ascribe to him -- especially when contrasting him against a J. McCain presidency.
But none of you see that just now, do you? I will be here. I will be here when the majority on this messageboard turns against B. Obama because he failed to carry out their extremely unlikely idealistic, utopian dreams. You people will be calling him "Hitler" and "a Nazi." And I will be here to laugh at you. Because at the end of the day, you are looking for a messiah who does not exist. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| I will be here when the majority on this messageboard turns against B. Obama because he failed to carry out their extremely unlikely idealistic, utopian dreams. You people will be calling him "Hitler" and "a Nazi." And I will be here to laugh at you. |
I would be very surprised if the majority of the people on this board call Obama 'Hitler'. When that happens, you may laugh. If that makes you feel better.
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| I will be here to laugh at you. Because at the end of the day, you are looking for a messiah who does not exist. |
At the end of the day ...
Just curious. This laughing-at thing that you seem to be so fond of doing lately ... is it working out okay for you?
There are reasons John McCain is just about to lose the very last chance he'll ever have to become president, some very good reasons. One of them is that I think people in general are tired of all the negativity, sarcasm, irony and ill will that has been the hallmark of conservative thought lately. They are tired of it because it has not worked. America is not a better place than it was, and the reason is that we chose the wrong leaders, then chose them again.
Historically, Americans often look to wartime presidents as exemplars of what leadership looks like. One of the attributes of wartime is that the entire society is all working in concert toward a single goal. It's one of the reasons many young men join the military, even young men who actually have no aptitude for it: they want to be part of something larger than themselves.
Not every sort of person will have what is needed to lead people and guide them in difficult times like that. John McCain was a soldier, an airman, and a patriot - he was the wrong choice for the GOP's candidate this time.
As for this whole messiah thing people keep talking about with Obama, I never got that at all, and it just seems like more from the Rovian playbook of taking an opponent's strengths and trying to spin them arund - if he's smarter than other candidates, say he's "not a regular Joe," and if he's young and dynamic and energetic then say he's inexperienced and naive ...
And if he's somehow become more popular than sliced bread with a healthy dollop of jam on top, well then, make fun of the people who support him and say they are stupid and deluded. (Because the alternative to that is to admit that your own candidate is really no great shakes.)
Me, I think most Obama supporters are pretty smart, and I think McCain has been trying to win by fashioning his campaign and his rhetoric toward stupid people who enjoy being afraid. That was a mistake.
Yeah, and I think just laughing at people and their ideas is a good ways to describe and point to the scarcity of any good ideas one might have one's self.
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
and then ask Iran to give up their war. |
I definitely want to put something along these lines on a t-shirt. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
and then ask Iran to give up their war. |
I definitely want to put something along these lines on a t-shirt. |
I'm wondering where I go to ask Iran this? [email protected]? |
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PBRstreetgang21
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Location: Orlando, FL--- serving as man's paean to medocrity since 1971!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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The irony about this is that Obama is more war mongering than McCain is. If you look at the last debates, McCain has pretty much said we need to stay focused on the wars we have and thats that, it is OBAMA who has said we need to invade Pakistan.
I voted for Obama (absentee) but I do have to say, I did do in the hope that HE doesnt start another war, since it is McCain who is talking about mainting the current level of conflict rather than expand it. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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It might start with the Obama Administration's possibly intervening in Darfur. This would likely provoke the same kind of "Hitler" and "Nazi" responses the Clinton Administration drew when it intervened in Yugoslavia.
It might also start with H. Chavez's antiAmerican propaganda. Unless B. Obama submits to Chavez's ego as a chavista, Chavez will ultimately turn against Obama. That is just how that will go, no matter who the American president may be. Chavez also counts on many cheerleaders and defenders on this messageboard. They will take at face-value and then ape his press releases in the threads they create here.
It might start with Iranian or Russian propaganda. Perhaps W. Blum or N. Chomsky's next book. Who is to say?
But I assure you, sooner or later, and sooner if an Israeli event explodes again and Obama backs Israel (and he will), people will be calling him "Hitler" and "a Nazi" -- and posters on this messageboard will pick it up and run with it, as I have predicted. I would lay odds on it, if my predicting it did not intervene in its naturally occurring.
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| PBRstreetgang21 wrote: |
The irony about this is that Obama is more war mongering than McCain is. If you look at the last debates, McCain has pretty much said we need to stay focused on the wars we have and thats that, it is OBAMA who has said we need to invade Pakistan.
I voted for Obama (absentee) but I do have to say, I did do in the hope that HE doesnt start another war, since it is McCain who is talking about mainting the current level of conflict rather than expand it. |
Yeah, Obama doesn't know much about the economy, either. But he has a calming temperment. Jeez. It doesn't matter, Obama's not going to win KY. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
people will be calling him "Hitler" and "a Nazi" and posters on this messageboard will pick it up and run with it. |
Ah, a step down. No longer the majority of posters, just posters. Interesting. |
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rusty1983
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