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mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:15 am Post subject:

DCJames wrote:

aka Dave wrote:

One thing that's killing the Europeans right now is they have a single currency, but a bunch of different governments, so it's hard for them to work together energetically to stem the crisis.

So a single currency for multiple governments is actually a bad idea if you're thinking about the current crisis.

That's only one negative consequence of having a single currency in Europe. European countries are also greatly benefitting from the streamlining that comes with a common currency.

Another positive is consumers can easily grasp the best price for a product. If everything is denominated in euros, it's very easy (especially with the web) for a consumer to find the best price for a good or service. More transparency is always better.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:

bucheon bum wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

bacasper wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

Kill us for helping the Jews.

It is not the Jews they hate us for helping, but the Zionists. Prior to the annexation of Palestine and creation of Israel, Jews and Arabs lived side by side in that area and interacted peaceably.

There has always been war between the Jews and the Muslim world. Why do you believe that there was peace before? Before the crusades?

I would say most Jews are Zionists.

Please list the wars between Muslims and Jews between the years of 800 and 1947. If you can name just a couple, that would suffice. Thank you in advance.

Jews lived under a system called dhiminitude. Like segregation in the US.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:13 am Post subject:

joshuahirtle27 wrote:

Well we all know what to do with a mess eh?

If there was one currency than no country would have a national debt anymore... I don't think.

I use the same currency of tens of millions of people, most of whom are in debt.

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:15 am Post subject:

mises wrote:

bucheon bum wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

bacasper wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

Kill us for helping the Jews.

It is not the Jews they hate us for helping, but the Zionists. Prior to the annexation of Palestine and creation of Israel, Jews and Arabs lived side by side in that area and interacted peaceably.

There has always been war between the Jews and the Muslim world. Why do you believe that there was peace before? Before the crusades?

I would say most Jews are Zionists.

Please list the wars between Muslims and Jews between the years of 800 and 1947. If you can name just a couple, that would suffice. Thank you in advance.

Jews lived under a system called dhiminitude. Like segregation in the US.

I'm aware of that. Bit different than war though, wouldn't you agree?

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:20 am Post subject:

bucheon bum wrote:

mises wrote:

bucheon bum wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

bacasper wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

Kill us for helping the Jews.

It is not the Jews they hate us for helping, but the Zionists. Prior to the annexation of Palestine and creation of Israel, Jews and Arabs lived side by side in that area and interacted peaceably.

There has always been war between the Jews and the Muslim world. Why do you believe that there was peace before? Before the crusades?

I would say most Jews are Zionists.

Please list the wars between Muslims and Jews between the years of 800 and 1947. If you can name just a couple, that would suffice. Thank you in advance.

Jews lived under a system called dhiminitude. Like segregation in the US.

I'm aware of that. Bit different than war though, wouldn't you agree?

Yes, absolutely. Significantly better, in truth. But I do not like this romanticizing - false history - that says they lived in peace prior to the founding of Israel. They lived in peace in the same way that blacks lived in peace during segregation.

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:24 am Post subject:

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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that's not what Five Eagles meant when he talked about a war. I think he meant something like an ongoing spiritual conflict where Jews are on the side of God and Muslims on the side of Satan.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:26 am Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

Quote:

Well, Xenu will clear this all up one day.

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:30 am Post subject:

Quote:

But I do not like this romanticizing - false history - that says they lived in peace prior to the founding of Israel. They lived in peace in the same way that blacks lived in peace during segregation.

Yes, but there are countless examples of minority groups suffering second-class status all over the world, many of them not involving Muslim majority countries. The Indian caste system, religious believers in China, etc. However, Muslim-Jewish hostility erupted into the violent, globalized conflict we see in the middle east today, not simply because Muslims didn't like Jews, but because of the way in which the state of Israel was founded.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:39 am Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

Quote:

I do not disagree in any way that muslims are not alone in keeping minorities groups in inferior positions. That the system is being brought to the West bothers me (can not criticize islam for fear of death, no-go areas for infidels etc). And that the dhimni system is totally white-washed for fears of islamophobia really bothers me.

Anyways, I don't care all that much about Israel or the situation over there. A bunch of people fighting over which god gave land to who. But I don't think the Jews should have just "known their place" (nor do I think that is what you are saying) and not established their own state. But then turning Gaza etc into an open air jail can't possibly help. Ah, religion. The Copts could only be so lucky to have their own state.

joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject:

mises wrote:

On the other hand wrote:

Quote:

Well, Xenu will clear this all up one day.

"Tuesday" right after they install the photon torpedoes.

fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

Quote:

Not quite so simplified, but sure something like this. Personally, I believe that a lot of muslims will convert to Christianity before there is a great conflict. All the way from Egypt to Syria will contain a huge following of believers. We are only seeing the beginning of the revival.

Europe, Russia, China and Iran will mostly be antagonistic towards Israel and its followers. To say they are on the side of Satan, is too simplified. More like they will come against Israel like another Nazi Germany.

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject:

fiveeagles wrote:

Not quite so simplified, but sure something like this. Personally, I believe that a lot of muslims will convert to Christianity before there is a great conflict.

And you believe in witches and every single guru you've ever talked about on Dave's ends up, two months later, involved in a sex scandal. Odd that.

But oddly many muslims believe many christians will convert to islam before the end.

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

Not quite so simplified, but sure something like this. Personally, I believe that a lot of muslims will convert to Christianity before there is a great conflict.

Given the fact that a lot more christians have converted to Islam than Muslims have to Christianity, I think the muslims' belief is a little more accurate.

(not saying Islam is better by any means, and I'm aware of some of those circumstances for conversion, just stating a fact)

fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

Not quite so simplified, but sure something like this. Personally, I believe that a lot of muslims will convert to Christianity before there is a great conflict.

Every single guru? haha

Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject:

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