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Do NZrs need a four year degree?

 
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mervsdamun



Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Do NZrs need a four year degree? Reply with quote

I apologise if this has been asked before but at the moment I can't find the answer to this question.

Do NZrs need a 4 year degree to work in Korea?

I was looking at http://wiki.galbijim.com/ESL_employment
and it said the following:
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have a 4 year college degree or 3 year university degree (Australia and the UK only) in any major. They are also very strict and uncompromising on this rule. 2 year college diplomas don't cut it.


any help with this would be much appreciated.
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Bigs



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not familiar with the NZ uni system... however, you need whatever a Bachelors course is - if it's 3 years then that's fine
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mervsdamun



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your answer. However, I see that you are an Australian. According to the link I posted above three year degree thing applies to Australia and UK. so what you are saying is true... I am just wondering whether this applies to NZ as well (the link stated UK and Australia only).

Any NZrs here who might help out with this one?
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, a 3 year degree is fine (BA from Auckland myself). That rule came in something like four or five years ago, maybe to attract more North Americans instead of us bottom of the barrel Kiwis Rolling Eyes, but hogwan owners were up in arms about it in the space of, hell, maybe a whole 4 weeks(!), and so it got quietly dropped. That page at galbijim needs updating.

Of course, the whole reason we have 3 year bachelors instead of 4 is because our public schools don't suck, but then Korean immigration laws have always been anything but logical!


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Otherside



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd bet Kiwi's are fine Smile

South African's are also on the 3 year degree system, and we qualify just fine Smile
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Zaria32



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a BA from the US, a 4 year degree. I also have a law degree from the US, a 3 year degree. I submitted my law degree which immigration approved (at the moment I needed to send it, I couldn't find the other one.)

And absolutely, Korean Immigration is clueless that a law degree from the US is a graduate degree...so, they accepted a three year degree.
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D.D.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excitinghead wrote:
Yeah, a 3 year degree is fine (BA from Auckland myself). That rule came in something like four or five years ago, maybe to attract more North Americans instead of us bottom of the barrel Kiwis Rolling Eyes, but hogwan owners were up in arms about it in the space of, hell, maybe a whole 4 weeks(!), and so it got quietly dropped. That page at galbijim needs updating.

Of course, the whole reason we have 3 year bachelors instead of 4 is because our public schools don't suck, but then Korean immigration laws have always been anything but logical!


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Canadian public schools are very good and we have four years degrees. I think the reason you stated above has little to do with why your degrees are 3 years.

I also did a degree in Australia and I found the reason the degrees were shorter is they were more concentrated. In North America our basic degrees have a wider course load. If you are doing sciences you still need to take basic English in 1st year. In Aus our courses did not have other classes.

The systems are very diffrent. In Canada a G.P. does 4 years under grad and then another 3 years. In Aus they just do a straight 5 years after public school.
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excitinghead



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, sorry D.D, I meant to say American public schools, and although I do still think that the reason I gave is one element in average undergraduate degrees being longer there specifically, I acknowledge that there are many others, and also that when I talked about school standards I was painting both education systems with a pretty broad brush!

Just out of curiosity, is it true what a Canadian friend told me about it being almost impossible to graduate an arts degree in America without also having studied a language? If so, I'd imagine that that would considerably add to the length of the degree too. How about Canadian degrees?


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mervsdamun



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from States actually but have lived in NZ for couple years and was asking this question on my NZ friend's behalf.

I agree that a lot of secondary schools United States are in an extremely poor state and that the kids don't get taught the basics. However, I would like to add that NZ is sliding in the same direction. while things there are little better some schools are no more than holding cells for people before they reach 16. There are are many good schools, but they are beginning to struggle a lot as the international students are drying up and the government clutches the coffers tightly.

Part of the problem might be long term financial planning -- they assumed that the number of Asian would not dry up, but it has badly. Word spread back home that the nice treatment stops once the money gets handed over and there have been a number of other unsavory incidents.

Of course last weeks news, about the Korean hitch-hiker who had his head cut of with a spade by a neo-nazi won't help.

I think slightly different attitude to Asian students and a new government would help arrest this slide.

Again, overall I think schools in NZ are better, and the average NZ (at least one living in the main urban centers) is probably more aware of the outside world than the average American.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
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Katchafire



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Kiwi and have a 3 yr degree. No problems.
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No we don't. A three year degree from NZ will suffice.
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