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WTS Nikon D200 Package: New Price - W1,200,000
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SeoulnPepe



Joined: 13 Sep 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those buy it now deals are always there. No one ever buys them, because most of those are new cameras. Why buy new when you can save 200-300 used. I've seen the same companies/people on Ebay selling the same cameras week in and week out, and no one buys them.

One of the worst companies on there is betteroffblu. They never sell anything because it's overpriced, yet they always list the items. Not sure where the logic is in all that.

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As superdave said, lenses hold their value, camera bodies don't. You may want to offer the series E with the katzeye.

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As for taking out the katzeye, just pop in the original screen. It will not ruin your autofocus. What could ruin it are scratches to the AF mirror, changing the focus cams, or having a screen that was never fitted properly (i.e. bad shims).

The autofocus will function regardless of the katzeye. I know, I have one on my camera.
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulnPepe wrote:
Those buy it now deals are always there. No one ever buys them, because most of those are new cameras. Why buy new when you can save 200-300 used. I've seen the same companies/people on Ebay selling the same cameras week in and week out, and no one buys them.

One of the worst companies on there is betteroffblu. They never sell anything because it's overpriced, yet they always list the items. Not sure where the logic is in all that.

****

As superdave said, lenses hold their value, camera bodies don't. You may want to offer the series E with the katzeye.

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As for taking out the katzeye, just pop in the original screen. It will not ruin your autofocus. What could ruin it are scratches to the AF mirror, changing the focus cams, or having a screen that was never fitted properly (i.e. bad shims).

The autofocus will function regardless of the katzeye. I know, I have one on my camera.


no i mean it won't be able to autofocus because i dont have the original.
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slee0316



Joined: 04 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I've emailed ya a couple times now but maybe its just not working, email me at [email protected]
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KOREAN_MAN



Joined: 01 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On danawa, the D200 (new) is priced at $800, without a Korean warranty. I would say $1000 is a fair price for the entire package. I really don't see why anyone would want to spend one grand for a slightly-used D200 body when he can get the new D90 for almost the same price.

God, I feel like Spliff now. Embarassed
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SeoulnPepe



Joined: 13 Sep 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see.

You could find out the part number of the AF screen, and order one from Nikon.

My LCD window is scratched up like crazy, but I recently found out it'll cost me under 15US to buy a replacement one through the Nikon parts department. That's the LCD cover that has the Nikon logo, not the actual LCD itself.

In any case, good luck with your sale.
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW: The Nikon D200 still goes for $1400 back in the States and that is the price I intend to base my sale on. Once again, my research of eBay shows prices of D200s selling in the $800 range and have priced my sale accordingly.

If you think my prices are unfair then keep it to yourself and stop f*cking with my post. Maybe it's just me but I'm not very appreciative of a bunch of trolls swarming around my thread claiming they know more about camera pricing than I do. I am good at what I do, I take care of my equipment, I am extremely well read on what things cost and what things do not and I know what my equipment is worth.

Unlike the used car market (which some people have incorrectly compared cameras to) camera resell values do not immediately fall through the floor upon first use. A solid camera will be expensive forever. Consider any of the previous Nikon F-series of film cameras, even cameras 30 years old are selling for more or close to that of their original retail value.

Yes, the digital market is different but with a manufacturer like Nikon, one that values longevity in their products, they build their professional and semi-professional cameras to last forever. If it weren't for the megapixel race Nikon probably would've called it quits and said game over after the release of the D70, D200 and D2x. To be honest, for every day users, the level of technology that you can reasonably need has been surpassed at least 3 or 4 years ago everything they done since then is to rob consumers blind.

Please don't question my motives or if you really feel it necessary use a PM.

My sale will continue as a package and things will not be parted out. They were collected as such for a good reason and they will be sold as such. If I were truly greedy and money hungry then yes I'd probably sell each piece on it's own charging the full amount that I could get for each but I'm not. I'm selling it all together, at a great discount, so that someone who has nothing but wants to get started in photography can get everything he or she needs all at once.

I'm dropping the price to 1,350,000Won and I can meet you at any downtown Seoul Station.

Now please stop heckling me.
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JFuller317



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nosmallplans wrote:
If it weren't for the megapixel race Nikon probably would've called it quits and said game over after the release of the D70, D200 and D2x. To be honest, for every day users, the level of technology that you can reasonably need has been surpassed at least 3 or 4 years ago everything they done since then is to rob consumers blind.


I'm not a photography expert by any means, but the review of the D200 that you linked to also had a review of a D300 which they claimed could get far more vivid, saturated colors than the D200 (and they showed comparison screens). So it's not all just a megapixel race.
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFuller317 wrote:
nosmallplans wrote:
If it weren't for the megapixel race Nikon probably would've called it quits and said game over after the release of the D70, D200 and D2x. To be honest, for every day users, the level of technology that you can reasonably need has been surpassed at least 3 or 4 years ago everything they done since then is to rob consumers blind.


I'm not a photography expert by any means, but the review of the D200 that you linked to also had a review of a D300 which they claimed could get far more vivid, saturated colors than the D200 (and they showed comparison screens). So it's not all just a megapixel race.


I totally agree! I now on the D300. I previously owned the D200. Though the D200 is a great camera, the D300 is much better. And actually, the megapixel has little to do with making the D300 a better camera. There are many aspects that make the D300 a better camera.

According to your asking price, my coworker got a bargain upon taking the old D200 of my hands.
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Golem



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try going to Namdaemun and see what they offer you for your equipment and compare it to what they are selling it for. Pick a price in between those two numbers and you will sell your equipment within a week or two in all likelihood. That is what most people I know do when they try to sell there gear.
Otherwise, you are going to have to consider keeping your camera gear for a while longer until you do come down in price.
The other problem is that very few serious photographers are going to what everything you are selling as a set. Most of us will have some of the equipment you have and won't see the value in paying top prices for redundant gear. You might also sell this quicker if your price all your equipment individually based on market rates in Namdaemun.
We aren't trying to break your balls here although some of us are being more polite about how overpriced your gear is than others.
Anyways I have come to the conclusion after talking with one of my photographer friends that even at Namdaemun prices this gear probably wouldn't be as nice as I thought compared to what I have. Even if you lower your prices I am now out of this game.
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Golem



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nosmallplans wrote:


My sale will continue as a package and things will not be parted out. They were collected as such for a good reason and they will be sold as such. If I were truly greedy and money hungry then yes I'd probably sell each piece on it's own charging the full amount that I could get for each but I'm not. I'm selling it all together, at a great discount, so that someone who has nothing but wants to get started in photography can get everything he or she needs all at once.

I'm dropping the price to 1,350,000Won and I can meet you at any downtown Seoul Station.

Now please stop heckling me.


No one is being greedy. Check the market prices for your gear used here in Korea. I already said this can be done in Namdaemun. Sell you gear to one of your friends at Namdaemuun prices if you want. Then you wont have to feel ripped off cause at least your friend is getting your gear at a market price even if your not making as much money as you would like. This is how everyone I know buys used photo gear here in Korea.
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the point of having more vivid colors and saturation when it is impossible to print them to show such improvements? the level of color rendition that the d200 can record is impossible for modern monitors or printers to produce. having more color than that is just stupid! we may never be able to fully reproduce adobe1998 and i don't expect to be alive by the time they ever (if ever) find a way to print a color space like prophoto rgb.

tophatcat wrote:
JFuller317 wrote:
nosmallplans wrote:
If it weren't for the megapixel race Nikon probably would've called it quits and said game over after the release of the D70, D200 and D2x. To be honest, for every day users, the level of technology that you can reasonably need has been surpassed at least 3 or 4 years ago everything they done since then is to rob consumers blind.


I'm not a photography expert by any means, but the review of the D200 that you linked to also had a review of a D300 which they claimed could get far more vivid, saturated colors than the D200 (and they showed comparison screens). So it's not all just a megapixel race.


I totally agree! I now on the D300. I previously owned the D200. Though the D200 is a great camera, the D300 is much better. And actually, the megapixel has little to do with making the D300 a better camera. There are many aspects that make the D300 a better camera.

According to your asking price, my coworker got a bargain upon taking the old D200 of my hands.
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tophatcat



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's the point of paying more for a 200 when it is possible to purchase it for less, or one with more improvements? the level of color rendition that the d200 can record may be impossible for modern monitors or printers to produce..hmm. having more color retention than that is just idea! and there is nothing else left to invent, thus we don't need to continue to patent anything beyond this point. let me take out my old instant Polaroid because camera technology stopped at that point. geeeez....

nosmallplans wrote:
whats the point of having more vivid colors and saturation when it is impossible to print them to show such improvements? the level of color rendition that the d200 can record is impossible for modern monitors or printers to produce. having more color than that is just stupid! we may never be able to fully reproduce adobe1998 and i don't expect to be alive by the time they ever (if ever) find a way to print a color space like prophoto rgb.

tophatcat wrote:
JFuller317 wrote:
nosmallplans wrote:
If it weren't for the megapixel race Nikon probably would've called it quits and said game over after the release of the D70, D200 and D2x. To be honest, for every day users, the level of technology that you can reasonably need has been surpassed at least 3 or 4 years ago everything they done since then is to rob consumers blind.


I'm not a photography expert by any means, but the review of the D200 that you linked to also had a review of a D300 which they claimed could get far more vivid, saturated colors than the D200 (and they showed comparison screens). So it's not all just a megapixel race.


I totally agree! I now on the D300. I previously owned the D200. Though the D200 is a great camera, the D300 is much better. And actually, the megapixel has little to do with making the D300 a better camera. There are many aspects that make the D300 a better camera.

According to your asking price, my coworker got a bargain upon taking the old D200 of my hands.
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the d200 simply offers features that cameras like the d80 and d90 (while being great cameras) just do not have. the biggest reason i purchased a d200 was for it's near perfect compatibility with nikon's entire legacy lens collection. plus, with an aps-c sensor you can get mind-blowing sharpness out of cheap easily found lenses with super fast apertures.

for a long time i had both a 53/1.2 and an 80/1.4 that were simply unbeatable. yes, they would not make good sport lenses, or at least, you'd have to be really good at quick focusing but that's not what i shot. the used market being what it is here you can easily and cheaply get fantastic lenses that will bring out more sharpness and faster apertures than any amount of money can get you with a modern af system. it is this fact that i built my d200 kit around.

tophatcat wrote:
what's the point of paying more for a 200 when it is possible to purchase it for less, or one with more improvements? the level of color rendition that the d200 can record may be impossible for modern monitors or printers to produce..hmm. having more color retention than that is just idea! and there is nothing else left to invent, thus we don't need to continue to patent anything beyond this point. let me take out my old instant Polaroid because camera technology stopped at that point. geeeez....

nosmallplans wrote:
whats the point of having more vivid colors and saturation when it is impossible to print them to show such improvements? the level of color rendition that the d200 can record is impossible for modern monitors or printers to produce. having more color than that is just stupid! we may never be able to fully reproduce adobe1998 and i don't expect to be alive by the time they ever (if ever) find a way to print a color space like prophoto rgb.

tophatcat wrote:
JFuller317 wrote:
nosmallplans wrote:
If it weren't for the megapixel race Nikon probably would've called it quits and said game over after the release of the D70, D200 and D2x. To be honest, for every day users, the level of technology that you can reasonably need has been surpassed at least 3 or 4 years ago everything they done since then is to rob consumers blind.


I'm not a photography expert by any means, but the review of the D200 that you linked to also had a review of a D300 which they claimed could get far more vivid, saturated colors than the D200 (and they showed comparison screens). So it's not all just a megapixel race.


I totally agree! I now on the D300. I previously owned the D200. Though the D200 is a great camera, the D300 is much better. And actually, the megapixel has little to do with making the D300 a better camera. There are many aspects that make the D300 a better camera.

According to your asking price, my coworker got a bargain upon taking the old D200 of my hands.
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Golem



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it sells for $800US on ebay than sell it on ebay. It is possible to ship from Korea to the US. I have seen people sell things from Korea this way.
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riverboy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of whether or not the camera is sold for the original price, I am in the market for a DSLR and I am learning alot from this thread.
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