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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: gjf Reply with quote

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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.korealawblog.com/entry/why_i_dont_drive_in_korea_and_you_shouldnt_either
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the article:

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Korea handles automobile accidents according to an odd �blame-sharing� concept whereby both parties are always deemed to have some fault in the accident. The usual apportionment is 60-40. What this means is that the driver who caused the accident bears 60% of the responsibility (and therefore cost), and the driver who simply got crashed into gets stuck with 40% of the responsibility on some cockamamie theory that had he not been operating a motor vehicle he would not have gotten into the accident. So the 60% driver pays 60% of the damages incurred by the driver he struck, but receives from the driver he struck an offsetting payment of 40% of the 60% driver�s damages.


Good Lord! Shocked
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry. When I had a very similar accident. (I was stopped and was hit by someone). The general consensus at work was when you are rear-ended it's the guy that hit you who is 100% at fault.

I wonder why your insurance company is so useless though. I had someone who speaks Korean who could call for me.
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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also in a car accident a week ago. Similarly, I was also the vicitim of stupid drivers here in Korea (apparently my adjumma being a little less bright since she smacked me from the front-right, while I wasn't moving!).

If you are hit, and it's relatively minor, first thing you should do is call your insurance company. Then, take pictures of all damage with your mobile. I always keep a stick of chalk in my glove box so I can mark the tires on the asphalt before moving the car.

The most important thing when dealing with insurance companies is to get a CLAIM NUMBER from the other person's insurance company. I suggest you get this number before you leave the scene. This number allows you to seek medical coverage or car repair work from the other person's insurance company. Without this number, there isn't much action you can take.

In my case, I was hit in the morning, so my insurance company (Samsung) sent a representative out right away to greet me at the scene, do paperwork and take pictures. Ultimately, he was responsible for negotiating on my behalf with the dumb adjumma's insurance company. I also called the police to come out and take a report (I did this since it was so obvious it was not my fault and wanted to have two reports saying so!)

I also got the dumb adjumma's phone number and license plate number.

Turns out, I'm pegged for 20% and the dumb adjumma got 80% and my insurance premium will not go down next year.

As for percentages of fault in Korea, I've heard that 70/30% is quite normal for a regular accident when one person is at fault. By holding the victim accountable for a certain percentage, it discourages people from purposely causing accidents and claiming on them. The only exception to the rule is if you are rear-ended, and in that case you should get 100/0% fault.

Informally however, for very minor accidents, I believe Koreans usually do a cash pay-off, and avoid going through insurance companies. For this reason, it's wise to keep 100,000won or so in your glove box.

This information is based on my experience, and therefore I cannot attest to the accuracy.


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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane wrote:
I always keep a stick of chalk in my glove box so I can mark the tires on the asphalt before moving the car.
it's wise to keep 100,000won or so in your glove box.


What else do you keep in your glove box?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
Jane wrote:
I always keep a stick of chalk in my glove box so I can mark the tires on the asphalt before moving the car.
it's wise to keep 100,000won or so in your glove box.


What else do you keep in your glove box?


I keep up to 200k on hand just in case ...
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As for percentages of fault in Korea, I've heard that 70/30% is quite normal for a regular accident when one person is at fault. By holding the victim accountable for a certain percentage, it discourages people from purposely causing accidents and claiming on them. The only exception to the rule is if you are rear-ended, and in that case you should get 100/0% fault.


Not so. If the other person is found to have broken a traffic regulation and that led to the accident then it is 100% their fault. Example, driver does a uturn across a double yellow and causes an accident;they are 100% at fault (know from experience). If a car runs a red light and causes an accident with a car that is not the 1st through on the new green it is 100% their fault (I also know this from experience). The key to prooving this is to get witnesses...not always an easy task. That is why you see so many banners asking for witnesses to step forward to testify about what happened in an accident.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had two serious-ish accidents involving collisions with moving cars while on my scooter. One time the damage wasn't enough to warrant any action, and the other time the other driver paid 100% of my repair bill.
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640x480



Joined: 02 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racetraitor, which insurance company do you have and how did you get connected?
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NoExplode



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very few US states do not have a blame-sharing law. In my home state, it is NEVER 100% anyone's fault, even if the guy was an escaped convict who carjacked the car he was in, got blind drunk and hit another moving car. Exceptions are hitting pedestrians, bikes or parked cars. Otherwise it's 90/10 at least.
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logan2003



Joined: 20 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok..I have experience in this matter...rear ended...100% their fault..(there are special cases where this is not the case...police told me this)

I was hit by someone making a left turn on a red light....hit us then tried to escape....this non whitey way-gook got about 15 million won in damages...replacing the car about 8mill and the rest for damages...actually that was a 2 part deal.

So um...yeah no sharing in that case. It helps that many people were there too!
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

640x480 wrote:
Racetraitor, which insurance company do you have and how did you get connected?


Insurance company?

Hell, I just ride the cheapest possible scooter.
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane wrote:
.. I always keep a stick of chalk in my glove box so I can mark the tires on the asphalt before moving the car...


Note to self: Never ask Jane to drive me anywhere. Shocked
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a disposable camera in my glovebox. I'll have to add some chalk, too. Good idea.
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