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Jandar · Joined: 11 Jun 2008

Here is the link you forgot to post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keEsJVrlw6I

Jandar · Joined: 11 Jun 2008

Yes he will be tested.

As Kennedy was tested with the Missile crisis, so shall Obama be tested.

So what will be the test?

My guess would be the Iraq pullout and the consequences of it.

Either escalation in Afghanistan or an upheaval in Pakistan's or Iran's role after the pullout and Turkey's reaction to that.

Other things to consider:

China ie. North Korea, Taiwan.

Russia ie. Georgia, Ukraine et al.

Domestically the economy and it's international effect.

There will be a test, will you support a Presidents hard choice?

OneWayTraffic · Joined: 14 Mar 2005

yawarakaijin · Joined: 08 Aug 2006

By throwning it "we need your support because it won't be immediately apparent that we are right" it sounds like it will be a generated conflict of Obama's choosing doesn't it?

This could be very interesting. I wonder how America would take, for example, a renewed mission in Somalia or intervention in Sudan.

Is there any way for him to show leadership in Africa without the Republicans somehow spinning it that he is involving American in Africa, not because it would be the right thing to do, but because he is half black? In an ironic twist of fate I see Obama being black basically hamstringing him on any issue that deals with Africa. Us smart whites stayed out of Rwanda. Who knows what Obama would do is a tone I could see emerging.

I think he will be elected but I also predict quite a lot of second guessing will be done during his administration because of his ethnic background. That thread about what a white politicians could get away with and how those same situations would affect a black president will be very telling I think.

VanIslander · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject:

"always bet on black"

the world leaders will be so numb at the thought of a black man (gasp) holding command of the greatest military force in the world that the potential for fullscale new conflict is minimal

one angry violent wave of his black fist and the powers that be in the kremlin will tremble at the recollection of every movie and black guy stereotype they are familiar with: northern Georgia will no longer be a problem of Russian occupation

seriously... he can play chicken and win - just by using still rampant prejudice against those who have it

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I'd like to hear more of the context in which that was spoken. Who is he talking to?

What came to my mind was not the Missile Crisis, but Kennedy's meeting with Khrushev in Vienna in '61 where Khrushev was very aggressive and Kennedy said, "He beat the hell out of me."

loose_ends · Joined: 23 Jul 2007

I think what caught my attention most was Biden's choice of words.

He said, "Mark my words..", which as we all know, is quite strong qualitativley.

In addition, he went on to describe the event which will happen. How does he know the people will not agree at first, but have to just trust the president?

This is all very strange language to be used my the vice-president nominee during a race.

Does Biden know something we do not? Well, his language seems to suggest so.

caniff · Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map

loose_ends · Joined: 23 Jul 2007

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I found this article by Bill Kristol responding to Biden. Kristol: What Biden Implied It includes McCain's response.

Kristol manages to interpret it that Obama will respond weakly to some crisis and then criticizes what Obama has done only in Kristol's fantasy. McCain doesn't do any better. He says Obama 'invites' a crisis.

If we want to know what Biden meant, someone will have to ask him. In the meantime, the conspiracy theorists can play 'connect the dots'. It will keep them entertained.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/kristol_what_biden_implied.asp