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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| esetters21 wrote: |
| Could be; although I can't fathom the dynamics behind that. |
americans have pissed off a lot of people in the world and canadians find they've been better received when others find out they are canadian despite being initially mistaken for american
this is my own experience in at least five countries and i've heard about this for years before i ever travelled
though i've never sewn anything on, i have bought shorts with 'canada' on it and have a cap as well |
Funny...cause in five years in Korea the only white people I have ever seen walking around with some stupid flag on their backpack are the Canadians. Are you trying to tell me white French...British...or Polish people don't get mistaken for American. I think there is more to the issue than not wanting to be mistaken for American. |
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PeterDragon
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Oh, the comedy ain't lost on me either. Bitter rivalries are so much more fun when the two countries are pretty much guaranteed to never actually go to war with each other.
And there truly is no difference between Vancouver and Portland, or between Central Canada and the Upper Midwest. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Why is it better in Korea to be a Canadian as opposed to the other English speaking nationalities that are allowed to teach here? They pretty much see all of us as foreigners, yet I don't see Australians, New Zealanders, Americans, South Africans, British, Irish, etc.. trying to distinguish themselves. What gives? Do Koreans like Canadians more than the rest of the waegookins? |
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IAMAROBOT
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Merchandise in Canada isn't sold any other way. Some levelheaded Canadians tried to challenge this and those people were threatened with having their Tim Horton's privileges taken away, so they shut up. True story. |
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polonius

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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| esetters21 wrote: |
| Why is it better in Korea to be a Canadian as opposed to the other English speaking nationalities that are allowed to teach here? They pretty much see all of us as foreigners, yet I don't see Australians, New Zealanders, Americans, South Africans, British, Irish, etc.. trying to distinguish themselves. What gives? Do Koreans like Canadians more than the rest of the waegookins? |
The older generation really appreciates what The USA did for them, helping during the Korean War. This has fizzled out amongst the younger generation, and all the young Korean see are the Military men making moves on the Korean girls (I suppose all foreigners can be lumped into this category) the FTA which they believe isn't a good deal for them. Many Koreans have a strong hatred to Bush Jr. and they translate this to the American people. What they don't realize though, is that really Americans and Canadian, for the most part, are practically the same. The recent generations have been raised on MTV, and the same television shows which have been our educators. Sure, there are slightly different political views, but nothing significant enough to hate one group of people over another.
I saw an American wearing a Canadian patch shortly after the Tank rolling over 2 Korean middle school girls. I have heard stories of Americans being spat at simply because they are American.
From what I have seen though, is that Koreans will flatter you, no matter where you are from. I got in a taxi once, and the driver asked me where I was from, I said Canada. He said "oh Canada good, America bad" then got in a taxi with an American friend, and the driver said, "Oh, I love Canada and America." They are trying to appease us. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| That is good insight polonius. I don't have an opinion either way about Koreans thinking Americans are bad and Canadians are good. My interest lies in why Canadians in Korea feel the need to distance themselves from other caucasion nationalities to the extent that they do. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| Dharma_Blue wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
| esetters21 wrote: |
| Could be; although I can't fathom the dynamics behind that. |
americans have pissed off a lot of people in the world and canadians find they've been better received when others find out they are canadian despite being initially mistaken for americanl |
Defining your own nationality on NOT being from another country? Sounds extremely insecure. |
Funny, that's how a lot of Americans define their own nationality as well. |
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polonius

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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| esetters21 wrote: |
| That is good insight polonius. I don't have an opinion either way about Koreans thinking Americans are bad and Canadians are good. My interest lies in why Canadians in Korea feel the need to distance themselves from other caucasion nationalities to the extent that they do. |
I don't know why either. I don't walk around shouting my barbaric Yaup, that I am Canadian. I don't plaster myself with the Canadian flag whe traveling. All I could suggest is that because of a perception the rest of the world has of the American for Foreign Policy, they translate this to the American people. Which we all know, for the most part, most Americans don't agree with the American foreign policy. Perhaps the Canadians want to avoid getting into the problems, arguments that might arise. I wear my heart on my sleeve, not my flag. I think that should suffice. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Let me clarify that I think we are all lumped into a pool of simply being foreigners in Korea. I think that Canadians try to break from the mold more so than others do, and I am very curious as to why. What service and benefits have Canadians offered to Korea that might have Koreans see them in a better light than other foreigners? |
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jajdude
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Dharma_Blue wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
| esetters21 wrote: |
| Could be; although I can't fathom the dynamics behind that. |
americans have pissed off a lot of people in the world and canadians find they've been better received when others find out they are canadian despite being initially mistaken for americanl |
Defining your own nationality on NOT being from another country? Sounds extremely insecure. |
Funny, that's how a lot of Americans define their own nationality as well. |
Isn't that what every nationalistic person in the world does, the root of nationalism being I'm great because..... well, hey, um, I chose good parents?
I know I'm glad I made the choice to be born where I was, though admittedly at that young age I didn't know Belgium existed. |
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IAMAROBOT
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| What I don't get is when white Canadians, without their protective Canadian apparel will complain and act all offended if they're mistaken for Americans. Do they think realistically think there are noticeable differences? Do they really expect the average Korean to pick up on the slight difference in speech patterns just like the average foreigner is (un)able to pick up on the different regional Korean dialects? |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: |
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This thread is stupid. Maybe the guy was given the bag and its nice and useful enough to use. You don't know.
I have heard of Canadians, especially the younger generation, here that go overboard with the over-identifying with the Canadian thing and bashing anything American. That's just ridiculous. Could be, and probably is, true that some or many Americans are overly sensitive about it all and they too bash back.
I've known Americans to be really gung ho at times. In Taiwan, my friend drove a jeep around with a spare-tire cover with an American flag design and "There's only one" on it.
It's just stupid. It doesn't matter if someone walks around with a bag that happens to have "CANADA" on it. Maybe it's a nice bag. If someone, however, purposely sews a patch on it or purposely does something else... Hard to say.
The fact that you're commenting on it tells something about you, OP. I couldn't give a fk if someone walks around with their country's T-shirt or an emblem displayed somewhere. You're analyzing too much. Get over it. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
This thread is stupid. Maybe the guy was given the bag and its nice and useful enough to use. You don't know.
I have heard of Canadians, especially the younger generation, here that go overboard with the over-identifying with the Canadian thing and bashing anything American. That's just ridiculous. Could be, and probably is, true that some or many Americans are overly sensitive about it all and they too bash back.
I've known Americans to be really gung ho at times. In Taiwan, my friend drove a jeep around with a spare-tire cover with an American flag design and "There's only one" on it.
It's just stupid. It doesn't matter if someone walks around with a bag that happens to have "CANADA" on it. Maybe it's a nice bag. If someone, however, purposely sews a patch on it or purposely does something else... Hard to say.
The fact that you're commenting on it tells something about you, OP. I couldn't give a fk if someone walks around with their country's T-shirt or an emblem displayed somewhere. You're analyzing too much. Get over it. |
The fact that you felt it necessary to respond even though you don't give an"F' about it speaks volumes about you. |
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waywardwanderer

Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: Canadian Idiot |
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| i4NI wrote: |
What do Canadians have to be proud of besides being located near the US of A?
Donovan Bailey still?? |
Well I guess it is time to review the history!!!!
Or maybe this: Canada
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I hate nationalists, especially of the Canadian variety. I am Canadian myself, and get embarrassed by them. But for all the American morons on this thread...
1) In Japan, Thailand and other places, I saw several people with American bandanas on.
2) I have met more than enough Americans with a bald eagle or the flag TATOOED to themselves.
3) Most long timers (really long timers), said that Americans used to do the same when it was a good idea to do it.
4) Have you ever counted the number of American flags in American movies, especially Spiderman
You are just jealous you can't do it anymore. If you could, you would.
And for the normal Americans on this thread without a pole up their butts, the reason some Canadians do it to separate themselves from Americans while others don't is the accent. You know a Brit right away. A Canadian sounds pretty much like a American.
I myself have never done it and get embarrassed by the Canadians waving the flag all over the place. But if you have a problem with a little flag sewn on their bags, well, it is you with the problem. |
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