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Gopher
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 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Fulbright Grant Program Alive and Well... |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| I suppose these threads are a "there is no financial crises" shot? |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
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No. That is not my position at all. But if you are going to argue that this is the end, then you should confront these and many other trends that suggest otherwise.
Do you think these things are cheap and easy? |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: |
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..A reductionism to my position that was never there.
Try again. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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That is not my position at all. But if you are going to argue that this is the end, then you should confront these and many other trends that suggest otherwise.
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Does the contiuned existence of Fulbrights really count as a trend? These scholarships have been around for a long time. Nobody is suggesting that long-standing institutions are going to disapper the minute the economy goes into a recession.
I am not an economist, but my understanding is that Christmas sales are regarded as a good indicator as to just how healthy an economy is. So why not wait a few months until those are finally tabulated, and then we might know a little more? |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Fulbrights, the Ford Foundation's grants and fellowships, Carnegies, a vast range of other funds that continue to operate, the same as always.
How can you propose "decline" when so many things that impact Americans and others' everyday lives remain exactly as they were this time last year, and the year before, and the year before that, and so on? |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| How can you propose "decline" when so many things that impact Americans and others' everyday lives remain exactly as they were this time last year, and the year before, and the year before that, and so on? |
Gopher, they continued to hand out Nobel Prizes during the Great Depression. Here are the Medicine listings from Wiki...
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1929: Christiaan Eijkman / Sir Frederick Hopkins
1930: Karl Landsteiner
1931: Otto Heinrich Warburg
1932: Sir Charles Sherrington / Edgar Adrian
1933: Thomas H. Morgan
1934: George H. Whipple / George R. Minot / William P. Murphy
1935: Hans Spemann
1936: Sir Henry Dale / Otto Loewi
1937: Albert Szent-Gy�rgyi
1938: Corneille Heymans
1939: Gerhard Domagk
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Does this tell us anything about the state of the world economy at the time? |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Does it tell you that, the Great Depression notwithstanding, the world did not "decline?" It should. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Does it tell you that, the Great Depression notwithstanding, the world did not "decline?" It should. |
It tells me no such thing. All it tells me is that they continued to hand out Nobel Prizes during the Great Depression. Since those are handed out by a very tiny group of people, and given to an even tinier group, they tell us nothing about the overall economic situation. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I see you, once again, focusing on and attacking to the death, one small element of the position I have advanced while at the same time ignoring that overall position.
When America declines and we are all standing in bread lines and waiting to eat at soup kitchens again, On the Other Hand, I trust you can say that you won your argument/prediction/imposition of will/or what-have-you.
Meanwhile, large numbers of people from all over the globe continue to compete for such awards as those that I have listed in order to travel to and study in this has-been Great-Depression-like nation-state. And I think you know better than to compare these processes and the other interrelated processes, including fully-funded TAships and other federal, state, local, and private funding for these students, with the Nobel Committee's awards. |
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