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BritishinSuwon · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: How deluded is he?

I've purposely not posted about the upcoming U.S election because I didn't feel the need to be flamed by those who disagree with me, but reading this story, (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081026/ap_on_el_pr/mccain#full), it makes me really question just how with it McCain really is.
I'm not talking about his reactions to the polls. Obviously candidates will spin the polls right up to election day, that's expected.
What really makes me wonder about McCain is his unfailing loyalty to Palin, and it seems he's really hit a low (at least in my eyes), with this quote (with regards to the $150,000 wardrobe) "She lives a frugal life, she and her family are not wealthy, she and her family were thrust into this," McCain said.
How can he honestly believe her and her family were thrust into this? I mean it's not as if Palin had a gun held to her head and was threatened into running for V.P. She knew full well what she was getting into, and for McCain to claim that she was somehow "thrust" into this situation stinks of desperation and the inability to deal with a candidate that could be sinking his campaign.

canuckistan · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:16 am Post subject:

Absolutely. The ass-covering has begun in earnest--by both of them.

Being thrusted--like it's some nebulous, unseen force of the universe beyond anyone's control.
I wouldn't credit his comments with being deluded, or even disingenuous, but calculated to spin the responsibility for the disaster that his VP choice and campaign has become.

McCain's been around Washington long enough to know exactly how it is in politics.
He picked Palin. She accepted.

'Nuff said about "thrusted."

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I don't see anything wrong with that statement. He is trying to minimize the damage to her credibility as a 'hockey mom' after the campaign spent $150,000 to dress her up...put lipstick on a pit bull, if you will. The 'thrust' comment is trying to express the idea that she was not sartorially prepared to be on national TV; whatever clothes she had in her closet were not up to the standards of taste of whoever decides those things in his campaign.

ddeubel · Joined: 20 Jul 2005

How deluded?

Deluded enough to actually put lipstick on a pitbull!

DD
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Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Yeah, he made a very lousy pick.

She is certainly a loose cannon. For example, on Letterman, McCain was caught having to defend his pick and the rest was trying to defend studid things she's said. He spent the entire time sounding like a dimwit (just like her) in the process.

It's almost too bad, a guy spends his entire career carefully crafting a certain image (regardless if its accurate or not), but he crafts it nontheless.

Then it comes down to crunch time...and John McCain is back in the plane, took a long a horrible co-pilot, and looking to crash again severely. Game over.

We'll see, still ten more days, and there are a lot of lost voters adhering to all kinds of weird propoganda stuff the Republican Campaign is putting out and completely ignoring the issues and reality, so McCain still has a shot to maneurer his spiraling plane back up again.

canuckistan · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject:

Another biting article from RS--we've brought it on ourselves!!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23318320/mad_dog_palin

Manner of Speaking · Joined: 09 Jan 2003

Canuckistan,

Interesting article. Very Happy

Some of the sentences are a bit long, but I like the guy's writing style.

The writer makes one interesting point, though...I suppose it was better for McCain to choose a self-described redneck as a running mate, rather than some kind of religious fanatic. He gets to cave into the right wing of his party, without choosing someone smart enough and fanatical enough to do any serious damage, if he were to win the election. Laughing

Manner of Speaking · Joined: 09 Jan 2003

canuckistan · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject:

MOS, I so enjoyed Taibbi's angry rant (shades of Christopher Hitchens at his most pissed-off!) and the accompanying political cartoon, I've made it my avatar--something I haven't been inspired to change in years.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

democrats 5.3 million for a stage.

BritishinSuwon · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject:

Wonderful argument there. I don't hear the Democrats defending their stage by claiming Obama was "thrust" on to it.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

BritishinSuwon · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

The point of the story isn't the clothing nor the price of the clothing. It's the reaction. I think $150,000 for clothing is ridiculous, and I think 5.3 for decorations is equally ridiculous.
What struck me about this story was McCain's idiotic notion that somehow the Palin family was "thrust" into a situation they couldn't handle. It's a pathetic, childish and immature answer to the controversy over the clothing.
What strikes me as even more immature is people like yourself trying to deflect that answer. If the Democrats had defended Obama in anyway by claiming he was "thrust" into this position, McCain and the Republicans (and their defenders) would be having a field day and accusing Obama of being unfit to hold office.
Really, what kind of defense is that anyway? To claim she was "thrust" into this situation is insinuating that she's unprepared for it, yet if anyone attacks Palin by claiming she's unprepared for the office of V.P, McCain and the Republicans froth at the mouth.

agentX · Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province

150K for clothes, 5.3mil for a stage < 1 billion a month in Iraq and god knows how much we're spending on terrorist activities in Iran.

Where are all the so-called fiscal conservative heroes on those boondoggles? Where you at, Kristol, Malkin, and Sowell?

bangbayed · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul

As usual, Joo leaves out the big picture: