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BrianInSuwon
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 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: sharing lesson ideas for "I hope...." |
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I'm looking for lesson activities for teaching "I hope..." (I hope the plane arrives on time.)
My thoughts so far:
Activity 1: Complete the sentence.
A: I hope _____________________.
B: Me too.
I think this would be rather hard. I'm having a hard time with this one. Can anyone think of easy/useful sentences that begin with "I hope"
Activity 2: Making questions.
A: Will we arrive on time?
B: I hope.
Any other questions?
Activity 3 ? |
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jadarite
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Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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With the second, I usually say "I hope so."
You might want to compare "I wish" with "I hope". |
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BrianInSuwon
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Activity 3: Comparing "I wish" and "I hope"
I would probably want to teach a lesson/activity on " I wish " first. And then for this activity I would give a list of incomplete sentences that needed to be sorted into two columns.
....I could fly.
....I can attend a good university.
....I was famous.
....I will become famous.
Activity 4 Complete the sentence based on the situation.
I thought more about this and the activity is so much easier if you give the students a context/situation.
Situation 1: A new teacher.
A new teacher is coming to teach you English. Write down 2 things you hope for.
I hope s/he is kind.
I hope s/he
Situation 2: Planning a family vacation.
I hope we can see the Eiffel Tower.
I hope we can bring our friends.
I hope we can stay at the Hilton Hotel.
Situation 3: A friend is coming to visit from Russia.
I hope they like the food.
I hope they don't bring their dogs.
I hope they like my family. |
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wings
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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...I were famous. You need the subjunctive here. |
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The evil penguin
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| wings wrote: |
...I were famous. You need the subjunctive here. |
if you wish to sound multi-personality.....(grammatically correct or not, and i can't be bothered to check, it sounds screwy) |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| The evil penguin wrote: |
| wings wrote: |
...I were famous. You need the subjunctive here. |
if you wish to sound multi-personality.....(grammatically correct or not, and i can't be bothered to check, it sounds screwy) |
it sounds "screwy" to millions of uneducated Americans (big Sarah Palin fans I am sure) which is why they keep saying
I wish I was.
and if I was.
whereas it's the ONE case in English (that I am aware of) where the subjunctive forces one to change the conjugation of the verb (in other cases, conjugation stays the same)
it's really the mark of someone who's educated vs someone's who is a clown.
Don't be a clown.
btw.. the subjunctive in Spanish is real TREAT. Vastly more ranging than in English, it requires different conjugations in EACH tense, thereby creating a new tense in itself! |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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whereas it's the ONE case in English (that I am aware of) where the subjunctive forces one to change the conjugation of the verb (in other cases, conjugation stays the same)
it's really the mark of someone who's educated vs someone's who is a clown.
Don't be a clown. |
are you serious? or just so infatuated with your notion of what "Engish" is that you wish to play Captain English?
Please tell me WHY any teaching of what most English speaker use = the teacher being a clown?
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
PS. please show evidence that it is in the vested interest of teachers to teach what IS English and not what English HAS BECOME.
Sorry to be so subjunctive and sorry to be so behind such an advanced notion of the subjuctive --- I guess Spanish should be the lingua espanola...
Thanks in advance,
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com |
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bogey666
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
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whereas it's the ONE case in English (that I am aware of) where the subjunctive forces one to change the conjugation of the verb (in other cases, conjugation stays the same)
it's really the mark of someone who's educated vs someone's who is a clown.
Don't be a clown. |
are you serious? or just so infatuated with your notion of what "Engish" is that you wish to play Captain English?
Please tell me WHY any teaching of what most English speaker use = the teacher being a clown?
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
PS. please show evidence that it is in the vested interest of teachers to teach what IS English and not what English HAS BECOME.
Sorry to be so subjunctive and sorry to be so behind such an advanced notion of the subjuctive --- I guess Spanish should be the lingua espanola...
Thanks in advance,
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com |
well you do raise a VALID point - and we can have an interesting discussion then on where lines (if any) should be drawn.
I am far from a black and white guy on the issue, after all, I would never use datum for a single piece of data.... but that's a word we took from Latin.
yet, I do have a pet peeve when it comes to English, especially when trying to TEACH it. I believe it should be taught "properly". Once you learn the proper way you can later play around with how everyday people torture it and twist it around.
For me, the usage of "if I was" was always the mark of frankly an UNEDUCATED person. so you want to teach English the way the uneducated speak it... yes,, please go ahead.
BUT..
why stop there?
you can NOT stop there.
if we were to adopt your standard of "what English has become", then the word "well" would also be eliminated forever to be replaced by "good".
we played good
(how many times do you hear THIS printed, and not only to quote idiot athletes but supposedly educated sportswriters also use the phrase?
and why should we use adverbs, when everything has become an adjective?
We did things different this time.
of course, once we've established this level of illiteracy, we can then start dropping our g's at the end... a la Palin.
to sound more "folksy".
ya know... so that "average Joe" can understand us.
I'm fairly sure if you took a poll of Korean parents and high achieving students, they're not interested in learning English the way 'average Joe' speaks it.
but that's just my opinion. |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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If I was you, I wouldn't be such a fundamentalist prig....
Meaning - you are NOT an expert on what English IS , you teach what English will be encountered.
No teacher has the gall or power to believe in such elitist dribble that you mentioned but wouldn't even admit to.
We give students the English as it exists, descriptively. Leave it there. Stop being the mini Mumbolini.
The vast majority of English language learners (95%) have no native teacher nor do they PRESCRIBE to such asinine measures of what English should be (nor even our efforts to teach them (us 5%) what we think. ( in our imaginary EGO led world of infatuating that what we speak is the only speak).
contrary to your 19th century notions of fossilized English, the vast plurality of English speakers get along fine and if I was even bolder, I'd state something even more decorious to affront your limited imagination 
Get off the bus, it is leaving without you....English won't "deterioriate" this arguement is in the dustbin of history with Lenin, you and his litter....
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
PS. I did this totally subjunctivelyless and without reference to high authority on what I should , could, might say , if I WERE a wherewithall....
DD
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
If I was you, I wouldn't be such a fundamentalist prig....
Meaning - you are NOT an expert on what English IS , you teach what English will be encountered. |
well I (try to) teach the English that will be encountered if you are among people who have an education, yes.
One would think our employers, or the govts of the countries that give out visas to English speakers are concerned with this as well, which is why they require a college degree.
as I mentioned were we to adapt your standards, the word "well" would cease to exist, and we'd eliminate most adverbs too.
obviously I would prefer a student to develop at least that 'faulty' level of proficiency, if the alternative meant nothing or little.
but I would still attempt to teach it correctly.
you may feel differently, and that's your prerogative.
btw.. why not just just teach them to say axe, instead of ask.?
after all, drop them off in any hood in a major urban area and that's what they'll hear there as well. |
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