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Beeyee
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 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: USA Launches Air Raid Against Syria |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7692153.stm
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US helicopter-borne troops have carried out a raid inside Syria along the Iraqi border, killing eight people including four children, Syrian officials say.
The official Syrian news agency Sana said the raid took place in the Abu Kamal border area, in eastern Syria.
It said that American soldiers on four helicopters had stormed a building under construction on Sunday night.
The US says it is investigating. It has previously accused Syria of allowing foreign militants into Iraq.
Syria has summoned the US and Iraqi envoys in Damascus to protest at the raid.
"Syria condemns this aggressive act and holds American forces responsible for this aggression and all of its repercussions," a government official said.
If confirmed, the raid would be the first known attack by US forces inside Syrian territory, says BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus.
Its timing is curious, coming right at the end of the Bush administration's period of office and at a moment when many of America's European allies - like Britain and France - are trying to broaden their ties with Damascus, our correspondent adds.
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"Four American helicopters violated Syrian airspace around 1645 local time [1345 GMT] on Sunday," Sana said.
Syrian TV showed what appear to be bloodstains inside the compound
"American soldiers" emerged from helicopters and "attacked a civilian building under construction and opened fire on workers inside - including the wife of the building guard - leading to [the deaths] of eight civilians", it added.
"The helicopters then left Syrian territory towards Iraqi territory," Sana said.
The dead include a man, his four children and a married couple, the Syrian report said, without giving details of the children's ages.
The village was named as Sukkiraya, 8km (5 miles) from the Iraqi border.
A US military spokesman was unable to confirm or deny the reports, saying it was a "developing situation".
But later the Associated Press news agency quoted an unnamed US military official in Washington as saying that American special forces had attacked foreign fighters linked to al-Qaeda.
"We are taking matters into our own hands," the official said.
The area is near the Iraqi border city of Qaim, a major crossing point for fighters, weapons and money travelling into Iraq to fuel the Sunni insurgency.
The Iraqi city's mayor, Farhan al-Mahalawi, told Reuters news agency that US helicopters had struck a village on the Syrian side of the border, after which Syrian troops surrounded the site.
Washington has in the past accused Damascus of turning a blind eye to the problem.
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Terrorists with Helicopters.
Oh yeah, what a wonderful world...what next?
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ddeubel
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I'm adding this to the indictment against GW Bush Jr.
I hope he rots in prison a long time for the war crimes. No better , no worse than a whole list of vile villains - the world has changed and being a head of state no longer protects and allows one to kill indiscriminately. The command goes right back to his hand.
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I'm adding this to the indictment against GW Bush Jr.
I hope he rots in prison a long time for the war crimes. No better , no worse than a whole list of vile villains - the world has changed and being a head of state no longer protects and allows one to kill indiscriminately. The command goes right back to his hand.
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Under what Int'l Law statutes will you try him, ddeubel? |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| ddeubel wrote: |
I'm adding this to the indictment against GW Bush Jr.
I hope he rots in prison a long time for the war crimes. No better , no worse than a whole list of vile villains - the world has changed and being a head of state no longer protects and allows one to kill indiscriminately. The command goes right back to his hand.
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Under what Int'l Law statutes will you try him, ddeubel? |
im waiting to ddebeul.... |
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Jandar
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| First you would need to put Syria on trial for Harboring a terrorist. |
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ReeseDog
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I'm adding this to the indictment against GW Bush Jr.
I hope he rots in prison a long time for the war crimes.
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Not a chance. |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I'm adding this to the indictment against GW Bush Jr.
I hope he rots in prison a long time for the war crimes. No better , no worse than a whole list of vile villains - the world has changed and being a head of state no longer protects and allows one to kill indiscriminately. The command goes right back to his hand.
DD |
To me, these Obama crazys are as bad as the McCain crazys. They have you believe bush and blair can be compared to the Hitler and Himler.  |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Under what Int'l Law statutes will you try him, ddeubel? |
Of course Kuros, despite your too often attempts at "legalese" - the U.S. is NOT above the law. Even if they don't belong to civilized organizations. My answer -
Same as Milosovic, International Criminal court in the Hague.
LOTS of evidence exists and after the election, all the rats will come out of their holes with more.
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| To me, these Obama crazys are as bad as the McCain crazys. They have you believe bush and blair can be compared to the Hitler and Himler. |
For the record - I'M AGAINST OBAMA. Further, I'm not comparing. Still kill one or kill a million - it is the same crime and same punishment. The sanctity of human life demands we pursue this justice...
DD
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Big_Bird
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That's interesting DD. May I ask why are you against him?
For me he is the lesser of 2 evils, but I certainly have reservations about him.
I agree with your stance on Bush being a war criminal, btw. |
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head-in-the-clouds
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
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| Under what Int'l Law statutes will you try him, ddeubel? |
Of course Kuros, despite your too often attempts at "legalese" - the U.S. is NOT above the law. Even if they don't belong to civilized organizations. My answer -
Same as Milosovic, International Criminal court in the Hague.
LOTS of evidence exists and after the election, all the rats will come out of their holes with more.
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| To me, these Obama crazys are as bad as the McCain crazys. They have you believe bush and blair can be compared to the Hitler and Himler. |
For the record - I'M AGAINST OBAMA. Further, I'm not comparing. Still kill one or kill a million - it is the same crime and same punishment. The sanctity of human life demands we pursue this justice...
DD
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life is war. Wars are a natural human instinct required to shape and progress the future. Your comments about the sanctity of human life are child-like pipedreams |
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JMO
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
Still kill one or kill a million - it is the same crime and same punishment.
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I don't agree. Surely killing a million is much worse. Maybe not exactly a million times worse, but definitely much worse.
From a practical point of view, it is highly unlikely he will be prosecuted for war crimes. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| head-in-the-clouds wrote: |
Wars are a natural human instinct required to shape and progress the future. Your comments about the sanctity of human life are child-like pipedreams |
Therefore, war criminals should not be prosecuted? Or in your world view are the words war criminal, an oxymoron? |
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ReeseDog
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Kill a few = murderer.
Kill a few million = conquerer.
Just how does that work?
(I can't claim the above as original. I'm sure I read it somewhere. Still applies, though.) |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
| ...the U.S. is NOT above the law. |
I think what Kuros is asking, and I would ask the same, is that you be specific and cite exactly which law you mean when you refer to "the law," above.
There is no law here, Ddeubel. This is world affairs and, if true, an act of war. Let the Syrian govt call it as such if it means business.
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| For the record -- I'M AGAINST OBAMA. |
Getting better all the time. I thought B. Obama was going to grab everyone's hands and sing, then heal the world, and then end antiAmericanism. Guess not. The same attacks against the American govt will likely continue as before.
Only soon you and others will be protesting that it is not America, just the American govt, and really just the Obama Administration, and not generally, and you can prove this because you always liked [delete B. Clinton from the standard disclaimer] W. Bush. 
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