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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: Is marriage like believing in Santa claus? Is it stupid? |
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Is marriage a religious silly tradition passed down through history? Is marriage really necessary in a scientific world with reason?
In a non religious view or an atheists view, someone who thinks old traditions and religions are just stupid traditions and superstition why even get married?
Wouldn�t marriage just be a silly tradition for atheists?
And what about monogamy?
why does there have to be monogamy?
Again aren�t these rules past down with some kind of religion morality?
Monogamy, I shall not do this! I will be this! I shall do this blar blar�
And then it�s sworn on god!
I mean plenty of Christians divorce! Plenty of atheists get married!
We have swingers who are Christians; we have Muslims, who will stone you to death if you cheat on your husband,
If religion leaves earth, where does that leave marriage?
If marriage is an old religious purpose with morality then doesn�t it belong in the same group with Christians, Buddhists, and other silly group�s atheist find to be stupid?
we can procreate no problem; we don�t need to marry to raise kids.
Is marriage just as silly as believing in Santa Claus? |
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M-su
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Satan Claus is Awesome and you know it!
Also, Santa is from Finland, not the north pole! |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Is marriage like believing in Santa claus? Is it stupid? |
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OK Im going to answer each and every one of these questions honestly and openly. Please, please do not ignore the answers and just restate your claims later.
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| Is marriage a religious silly tradition passed down through history? |
It is a religious tradition but it is not silly. It has been passed down through history.
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| Is marriage really necessary in a scientific world with reason? |
For legal reasons and matters of inheritance, I would say yes.
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| In a non religious view or an atheists view, someone who thinks old traditions and religions are just stupid traditions and superstition why even get married? |
For legal reasons.
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| Wouldn�t marriage just be a silly tradition for atheists? |
Possibly. Depends on the person. I personally(I'm an athiest) don't believe its a silly tradition.
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| And what about monogamy? |
Not all religions or cultures are monogamous. I wouldn't say it's silly or not. It is something that is defined by your culture.
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| why does there have to be monogamy? |
There doesn't have to be. In a strict sense I doubt any culture is truly monogamous.
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| Again aren�t these rules past down with some kind of religion morality? |
Religious morality and rules are normally derived from the needs of a particular culture. I'd say monogamy is designed to stop resentfulness from wifeless men in a polygamous culture. This can be dangerous.
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If religion leaves earth, where does that leave marriage? |
as a ceremony, that joins people legally.
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| If marriage is an old religious purpose with morality then doesn�t it belong in the same group with Christians, Buddhists, and other silly group�s atheist find to be stupid? |
Not all atheists believe religion to be stupid, they just don't believe in a God. Personally I think religions are human made and therefore reflect the needs of their particular culture. Joining two people legally is a need.
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Is marriage just as silly as believing in Santa Claus? |
nope. marriage exists. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Marriage was around a lot longer than current religions. So were morals and democracy even. You Christians are always asking stupid rhetorical questions like this, but what society is now has nothing to do with Christianity, as Christianity in itself can be traced back to other ideas before it. |
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the boy next door
Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: next door
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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there's no comparison.
i thought i had found my soul mate with a variety of sexually attractive women before i fell in love with the girl that is now my wife.
those lustful flings were merely that. it transitorily came and went but the first time i set eyes on my wife, something beyond magical, something beyond celestial, beyond anything hedonically yielding, some inescapable sensation better than physical life itself and even transcending spiritual satisfaction gripped the sheer essence of my entire being; i just knew i had to marry this woman and spend the rest of my life with her. i just knew if we married, i would be able to make it through this silly world with her but if we didn't marry, i'd end up nothing and sadly perish alone.
that is the truth about marriage. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| what society is now has nothing to do with Christianity |
This cannot be right. What society is now has been affected by Christianity on some level and to some degree. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Is marriage like believing in Santa claus? Is it stupid? |
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| Is marriage a religious silly tradition passed down through history? Is marriage really necessary in a scientific world with reason? |
We are not a wholly scientific world, and i doubt we ever will be. For many the cold (albeit harsh) reality of Science lacks the human qualities of emotions that most need.
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| In a non religious view or an atheists view, someone who thinks old traditions and religions are just stupid traditions and superstition why even get married? |
See below. Not all traditions are superstitious or religiously based. Tradition, routine are important factors of human development and social interaction.
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| Wouldn�t marriage just be a silly tradition for atheists? |
Marriage in many places offers significant social benefits, and tax benefits. The celebration of two people "becoming one" isn't necessarily a religious one.
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And what about monogamy?
why does there have to be monogamy? |
Scientifically, there is no reason. Less than 5% of the world's mammals participate in this kind of monogamy. A specific species should try to procreate and spread their genes as much as possible as indicated by male hormone activity. Socially perhaps a method of population control closely intertwined with religious and philosophical principles? If you "divide" your love among more than one person than each person will get less than 100% of your "heart" (love) is what the basic ideas are.
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| Again aren�t these rules past down with some kind of religion morality? |
Yes, barring the practical reasons i've stated above.
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Monogamy, I shall not do this! I will be this! I shall do this blar blar�
And then it�s sworn on god!
I mean plenty of Christians divorce! Plenty of atheists get married!
We have swingers who are Christians; we have Muslims, who will stone you to death if you cheat on your husband,
If religion leaves earth, where does that leave marriage? |
A non-religious tradition that offers some social benefits..something like having two people on one car insurance rather than paying for two separate car insurance. Christians that divorce, or atheists that get married do not necessarily invalidate the principles they believe in.
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| If marriage is an old religious purpose with morality then doesn�t it belong in the same group with Christians, Buddhists, and other silly group�s atheist find to be stupid? |
I do not call religion "stupid" persay nor do i think if religion were to magically vanish tomorrow, that the world would be in a better state than today. Such in-eloquent vocabulary shows lack of education. Certainly some of the best thinkers throughout human history were religious in nature, and they were certainly NOT stupid. If i was forced to throw out some words i might say, mis-guided or naive.
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we can procreate no problem; we don�t need to marry to raise kids.
Is marriage just as silly as believing in Santa Claus? |
Marriage exists, Santa Claus does not. Believing in a theistic Christian God, however, would be as silly as believing in Santa Claus. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't believe in marriage but I do believe in Santa Clause, especially at this time of year. He's making a list you know. |
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