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Joined: 25 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: thieving little punk. Reply with quote

So we had a 'market day' in my hagwon where the kids could buy stuff using dollars accumulated from good behaviour over the past few weeks.

This one middle school punk (there is no other word for him) who I had to kick out of class earlier in the week for swearing at me managed to steal an mp3 player that was for one of the really good students. The director knows it was him, but according to the other Korean teachers 'it's too rude' to confront the the kid with the accusation. I'm furious because the director let him back into my class without an apology to me. What a joke. One really good student of mine didnt get an mp3 today because of this little pr.ick and he gets away with it.
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Ultimo Hombre



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing. It's too rude to confront him, but it's not too rude of him to steal and be taught a lesson about it. He will grow up to be a fine entitled human being.
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Faunaki



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Re: thieving little punk. Reply with quote

[email protected] wrote:
I'm furious because the director let him back into my class without an apology to me. What a joke. One really good student of mine didnt get an mp3 today because of this little pr.ick and he gets away with it.


No it doesn't work that way. Stand up for yourself. The kid apologizes nicely and then comes back into class. If the kid is in your class and hasn't apologized yet refuse to teach. Throw a tantrum whatever. I did it and I work for SMOE meaning they can replace me easily.
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BrianInSuwon



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told my Korean co.teacher a story about a foreigner losing money because he left his wallet in his jacket in class during lunch. Her first reaction was, "Oh, yeah, you need to really be careful. There are some bad students around her"

But then she went on to tell me about a Korean teacher that had a large amount stolen from him. He "knew" who did it; the worst student in the class. So, he gently talked to the class. He really putting the sugar on and boasting of the value of moral character. Telling the class that he understood the temptation to steal and that whoever did it could confess and that all would be forgiven and that everyone would be a lot happier this semester if this was all behind them. So, finally, the kid confessed.

Hahahaha. Boy did he lay it to that kid. The kid is expelled, he's got his money back, and everyone is happy.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody was always stealing my teaching supplies, CD's, and anything else I'd leave at school. I never figured out who was the thief nor accused anyone, but just remained vigilant.

If I was quite sure of the thief, I would not had let him go until he coughed it up. I would had been yelling to scare him, then pick him up and turn him upside by holding him by his feet, and then frisking him. Hagwon made me go ballistic a number of times where I just physically removed the most awry disrespectful full of hate for living and being kind of kids and escorted them to the front door. I know this is harsh, but I was not supported in any way and I'm sure suicide is on many of their minds as they acted terribly negative. Being super strict gave the impression we were a competitive selective hagwon and that's the position the director takes on her PR and why I could do as I deemed necessary no matter how drastic. I had several students drop, because they got scared of me, but nothing was said or done about it as I was determined to stand up for myself and what I knew was right. (of course little is right about the hagwon model) I didn't stay in the hagwon industry for the sake of my health and that it's not worth the daily and annual stressful blood curdling battle with awry kids and corrupt head game playing management.

Public school is a walk in the park compared to that as I haven't had to go ballistic, deal with out of control negativity, and get pissed about the corruptions. And I actually have good classes and great students who mostly respect me quite well. No serious problems there.

It takes a strong constitution to successfully succeed in a hagwon. Successfully succeed. LMAO!
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KYC



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultimo Hombre wrote:
Amazing. It's too rude to confront him, but it's not too rude of him to steal and be taught a lesson about it. He will grow up to be a fine entitled human being.


Yeah, I don't get it sometimes in this country. Apparently, it's not wrong unless you get caught. Today I saw a student stole another student's candy while he turned in his test. At first I just told her to give it back. She refused. I asked again very sternly and she had it opened already..and she's giggling and laughing like a hyena. I got pissed and gave her this lecture and asked why she took something that didn't belong to her.

My coteacher told me to not get upset about it. Rolling Eyes Yeah, ok let's ignore the bad behaviors..cuz as teachers we shouldn't give a sh.t...amazing.
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bundangbear



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That story really makes me sad.

I am crying right now. Sorry if I'm a 30 year old emo kid, but, damn, that's sad! That's why I went into editing. Teaching kids is just too emotional for me, oh, and too low paying.

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bundangbear



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That story really makes me sad.

I am crying right now. Sorry if I'm a 30 year old emo kid, but, damn, that's sad! That's why I went into editing. Teaching kids is just too emotional for me, oh, and too low paying.

www.youtube.com.bundangbear
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never working in a Haqwon again.

Go to a pharmacy ask for "Decodil" laxitive, go to a store pick up a bag of MM chocolates, open the bag have a couple put therest on your desk. Make sure you plant couple decodils.Luckily they look almost identical, you could use no name brand type chocolates as well.

Let the *beep* get into it, Anywhere from 1-2 Hours the effects kick in. Its a gut wrenching pain that makes you squirm and have uncontrolled EXPLOSIVE bowel movements.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
Never working in a Haqwon again.

Go to a pharmacy ask for "Decodil" laxitive, go to a store pick up a bag of MM chocolates, open the bag have a couple put therest on your desk. Make sure you plant couple decodils.Luckily they look almost identical, you could use no name brand type chocolates as well.

Let the *beep* get into it, Anywhere from 1-2 Hours the effects kick in. Its a gut wrenching pain that makes you squirm and have uncontrolled EXPLOSIVE bowel movements.


Really? Does it taste like chocolate?
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
Never working in a Haqwon again.

Go to a pharmacy ask for "Decodil" laxitive, go to a store pick up a bag of MM chocolates, open the bag have a couple put therest on your desk. Make sure you plant couple decodils.Luckily they look almost identical, you could use no name brand type chocolates as well.

Let the *beep* get into it, Anywhere from 1-2 Hours the effects kick in. Its a gut wrenching pain that makes you squirm and have uncontrolled EXPLOSIVE bowel movements.


Haha - my dad did this as a joke/revenge to a co-worker years ago. It works.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a few things stolen teaching in hagwons. Don't leave any valuable personal items in class if you can help it. I've caught students rifling through my bag (which was on the floor under my desk).

Kids will be kids and they may be tempted to steal things.

But the really irritating thing is when the Korean teachers tell me things like "Koreans don't steal." I've heard that a few times.

I don't know if the Korean teachers really believe it, or if they are just looking at the world through kimchee colored lenses and/or playing a PR role as a show for the foreign teacher.

The bottom line is: use the same cautionary measures against stealing that you would in any other country. Some of your students are not the angels they pretend to be. I learned this the hard way.
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umpittse



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: thieving little punk. Reply with quote

[email protected] wrote:
So we had a 'market day' in my hagwon where the kids could buy stuff using dollars accumulated from good behaviour over the past few weeks.

This one middle school punk (there is no other word for him) who I had to kick out of class earlier in the week for swearing at me managed to steal an mp3 player that was for one of the really good students. The director knows it was him, but according to the other Korean teachers 'it's too rude' to confront the the kid with the accusation. I'm furious because the director let him back into my class without an apology to me. What a joke. One really good student of mine didnt get an mp3 today because of this little pr.ick and he gets away with it.


The hagwon doesn't want to offend the student or his/her parents because they may lose buisness if they do so. It's all about money to the hagwon.
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friendoken



Joined: 19 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Somebody was always stealing my teaching supplies, CD's, and anything else I'd leave at school. I never figured out who was the thief nor accused anyone, but just remained vigilant.

If I was quite sure of the thief, I would not had let him go until he coughed it up. I would had been yelling to scare him, then pick him up and turn him upside by holding him by his feet, and then frisking him. Hagwon made me go ballistic a number of times where I just physically removed the most awry disrespectful full of hate for living and being kind of kids and escorted them to the front door. I know this is harsh, but I was not supported in any way and I'm sure suicide is on many of their minds as they acted terribly negative. Being super strict gave the impression we were a competitive selective hagwon and that's the position the director takes on her PR and why I could do as I deemed necessary no matter how drastic. I had several students drop, because they got scared of me, but nothing was said or done about it as I was determined to stand up for myself and what I knew was right. (of course little is right about the hagwon model) I didn't stay in the hagwon industry for the sake of my health and that it's not worth the daily and annual stressful blood curdling battle with awry kids and corrupt head game playing management.

Public school is a walk in the park compared to that as I haven't had to go ballistic, deal with out of control negativity, and get pissed about the corruptions. And I actually have good classes and great students who mostly respect me quite well. No serious problems there.

It takes a strong constitution to successfully succeed in a hagwon. Successfully succeed. LMAO!


You're an English teacher Shocked
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waltjocketty



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you give your kids money for behaving? and then you buy an mp3 player for them? You're the nicest teacher ever, and that kid is a punk.
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