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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: foreigners who hold loud drunk fests |
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I refuse to call these gatherings parties - they are nothing more than a group of people being loud, obnoxious and drunk - totally oblivious to the disruption caused in the neigbors' homes and lives.
I live in Haebonchon - a blue-collar, working class nabe if there ever was one. Many of you know there is a large population of teachers here as well as other foreigners. It's the teachers that are the problem.
My Korean landlord and landlady agree with me and understand this - and I have seen the looks of frustration on my K neighbors who also are put off by this behavior.
Loud music - VERY loud - people spilling outside, talking and shouting loud - generally acting as if there simply wasn't anyone else in the world but them and therefore they are simply allowed to be as irresponsible as they wish.
I am so close to calling the police and/or filing a formal complaint - if that is even possible - and I so do not wish to do this. No one knows more than I how difficult it is for foreigners here and this would not help at all.
I know who this is - it's a single woman who moved in some months ago. She player her music very loud once and I went searching for it to ask that it be turned down. I was directed to her apt and clearly heard the music from outside. I knocked on the door and the music stopped. When she opened the door and I asked she turn it down, she insisted it wasn't her. Yet I heard it, and other neighbors pointed me in her direction in the first place. Why lie? I tried to be nice, and explained how close we all live to one another here. It made no difference. She turned up her nose and didn't give me a second thought.
If any of you have any suggestions that might help I'd like to hear.
If any of you recognize yourselves or people you know - I hope you will take the time to realize not everyone shares your lifestyle and choices and should not have to pay the price for your indiscretions. You are free to do as you want as long as you don't harm others - but interfering with people's rights to peace and quiet IS a problem - and I, for one, will fight you tooth and nail about it.
Enough of this rant. They are shouting again. I'm getting so pissed I'm about to lose it.  |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: |
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foreigners who refuse to keep quiet and mind their place
especially on a Friday night 
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valkerie
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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I feel your pain.
Can you talk to the building owner about it?
If not, then call the cops..... noise can easily be a form of violence. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
foreigners who refuse to keep quiet and mind their place
especially on a Friday night  |
why on earth do you - or anyone else - think that a certain day of the week gives one leave to disrupt other people's lives?
not everyone is on the same schedule or lives the same lifestyle - I don't expect you to follow mine but I do expect to be able to live in peace -
respecting the fact that people live in close quarters and therefore should not be subject to each others' indiscretions any more than necessary is the best way to get along - ignoring this is at one's own peril.
this person might very well wish she'd made friends with me some day - and not alienated her neighbors as well - |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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valkerie wrote: |
I feel your pain.
Can you talk to the building owner about it?
If not, then call the cops..... noise can easily be a form of violence. |
thanks for your support - I actually did talk to him - he said he'd talk to them and went upstairs - they turned down the music but not the wandering around outside and drunken loud behavior.
I know it's impossible to reason with people who are drinking - he is a decent man and appreciates his responsibility. I know he did what he could, but has very little English and probably didn't leave much of an impression on this person who obviously has no respect for anyone else anyway, right?!
I just came in after calling the police and meeting them outside. They were incredibly prompt in arriving, very polite and had no problem going over there. It's still loud but I'm sure it will take a few minutes for them to clear out.
While waiting for the cops I couldn't believe the stream of people coming in - this thing was going to be an all nighter for sure - !! and it started at 8:30 - !!
I'm just dumbfounded at the lack of class exhibited by some people these days. sorry, don't know any other way to put it. total lack of class, period. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Moose..no offense but you chose to live in HBC right? I mean that you weren't provided housing and that is where you chose on your own. It is what is is, meaning that what you described is going on there is typical I'm sure. That area is sorta the slums ya know? |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I live near HUFFS Yongin campus where there are very few foreigners about and it's louder than loud. Young people are the same just about everywhere. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I don't hang in HBC, nor would I ever live there, but isn't this like living in a college town and asking the students to settle down? Or moving to a bar district and being upset with the live music at night?
I also wouldn't like my neighbors keeping me up at night, but certainly wouldn't move next door to a fraternity house. |
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SA gal
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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y dont u just complain to the landlady?
i am sure a warning at the very least wil make her realise that she s offending ppl |
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SA gal
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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ah, i see that u tried that , just call the police |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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I find it funny that people think the cops here care about foreigners. My friend got his motorcycle stolen in Itaewon. He got redirected to 3 different cop shops, all saying that they don't handle theft. After that, he gave up. Anyone who has dealt with Korean cops, even in a time of personal threat, knows they are worthless. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
I find it funny that people think the cops here care about foreigners. My friend got his motorcycle stolen in Itaewon. He got redirected to 3 different cop shops, all saying that they don't handle theft. After that, he gave up. Anyone who has dealt with Korean cops, even in a time of personal threat, knows they are worthless. |
I have dealt with the Popo on several occasions and can verify what Bibbity is saying here. Granted I was usually on the accusatory end from over-zealous blood money seeking Koreans, but nothing ever came of it. They really don't care when it comes to foreigners. |
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umpittse
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: |
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When I was in Korea noise was a problem where I lived because I lived surrounded by bars, literally. There was a bar below my appartment, to the left of it and right across the street. Additionally, there were anywhere from 5-10 more bars within a 2-3 minute walking distance from my appartment. I lived in a bar neighbourhood. Almost every night there were loud Koreans drinking and yelling and the occassional fight in the street. I accepted these conditions because of where I lived but that didn't stop me from occassionally yelling at the exceptionally rowdy people who spilled on to the street at 2-3 a.m.
If you live in a residential neighbouhood people should respect some level of courtesy towards others. Get in these rowdies' faces and tell them to grow up and show some respect towards others. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Hey guess what - it's quiet - the cops went over as I posted earlier - and it took about a half hour but everyone's gone now and it's peaceful once more -
as for choosing to live over here - am not sure why some of you think as you do - I was attracted to the large apts and low rents - I have a 2 bdrm, less than 500,000 a month, 1 mill key money. it's nice.
again, this is a working class nabe - blue collar - it is NOT a college area nor full of young people - it is mixed, mostly families and the houses are very large. They've been bulit that way so the owner can rent out rooms/apts. Nothing wrong with that.
I even have a bathtub - do you?
oh btw, I was told it's 112 for police, not 119, that's only for emergencies. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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moosehead wrote: |
Hey guess what - it's quiet - the cops went over as I posted earlier - and it took about a half hour but everyone's gone now and it's peaceful once more -
as for choosing to live over here - am not sure why some of you think as you do - I was attracted to the large apts and low rents - I have a 2 bdrm, less than 500,000 a month, 1 mill key money. it's nice.
again, this is a working class nabe - blue collar - it is NOT a college area nor full of young people - it is mixed, mostly families and the houses are very large. They've been bulit that way so the owner can rent out rooms/apts. Nothing wrong with that.
I even have a bathtub - do you?
oh btw, I was told it's 112 for police, not 119, that's only for emergencies. |
It's still the slums no matter how you package it. HBC is just not on my radar as desirable. Bathtubs are gross. To each their own I guess. |
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