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freethought



Joined: 13 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Or you could just get a mac.... Reply with quote

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200810/200810310005.html

That article says the following:

PC makers are in fierce competition to shorten the time it takes for computers to boot up. The New York Times on Sunday said PC manufacturers like Hewlett-Packard Dell and Lenovo are planning to showcase computers that enable users to log onto the Internet within just 30 seconds after switching on the machine. Normally, it takes four or five minutes for a PC to grind into gear


I just booted up and got online with my not top of the line macbook, that has Norton Antivirus which slows it down AND a password protect, in one minute and 4 seconds. And it's been that way since I started using a mac a few years ago.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: Or you could just get a mac.... Reply with quote

freethought wrote:
Normally, it takes four or five minutes for a PC to grind into gear.


I call BS on this line. I haven't had a PC take 4-5 minutes to boot up since about 1990. Even then it didn't take that long.

My 4-year old Dell (XP Pro) takes about 45 seconds, which includes a password prompt and several programs that begin on start-up. My new machine (Vista Ultimate) takes about the same time.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes me just over a min from pushing the start button to opening a web page with opera. and I have a dell laptop with a Mobile Pentium III 600 Mhz cpu and 512mb of ram with an illegal copy of windows xp. If you have a mac why are you running windows?
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Location: Your computer screen

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My PC is about 30 seconds from power off to ready-to-go in firefox...


Super sluggish compared to my 15 year old amiga though. I don't think a month goes by that I don't wish amiga had won the war.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PC's have never taken 4 minutes to boot up. Another anti-Windows myth put around by the Mac cult.

My newish PC with Vista Ultimate takes less than 20 seconds to boot up.

When will Mac users stop taking the Kool-aid.........? I mean, really.....4 minutes to boot up!!!


Oh, and being proud of the fact that your Macbook takes over 1 minute to boot up..... Laughing ......you lost the argument right away....
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was curious, so I just tested my boot up time. 55 seconds to get to login screen, 2:51 to open IE to its homepage. (No, I am not currently using firefox, sue me.)

For comparisons sake, I'm running a quad core 6600 with 4 gigs of ram and Vista 64 ultimate. Yep, seems kinda slow.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2:51 until you can use internet??? That's really slow. Something must be up.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
I was curious, so I just tested my boot up time. 55 seconds to get to login screen, 2:51 to open IE to its homepage. (No, I am not currently using firefox, sue me.)

For comparisons sake, I'm running a quad core 6600 with 4 gigs of ram and Vista 64 ultimate. Yep, seems kinda slow.


Just a guess, but you probably have some kind of bloatware installed. Quicktime, Real Player, V3...

After booting up hit <ctrl> <alt> <del>, go to task manager, and check out the processes -- you probably have a number of processes that are sucking back resources.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a vista laptop. Just under 1 minute to get to the login screen. Plus 40ish seconds to get the login process all completed. So, 1:40ish. I wish it were under 1 minute for the whole deal, bootup and login.

Core 2 Duo, 2G RAM, Vista 32, and 3 external drives, on an LG notebook
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I_Am_The_Kiwi



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boot into windows time is what counts. From boot to internet browsing can slow down if youve got a bunch of apps that load themselves during startup and these will slow everything down.

Also FF usually takes a long time to start, in comparison to IE.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I_Am_The_Kiwi wrote:
Boot into windows time is what counts. From boot to internet browsing can slow down if youve got a bunch of apps that load themselves during startup and these will slow everything down.

Also FF usually takes a long time to start, in comparison to IE.


I disagree. I think the time from pressing the power button to using the app you want to use is exactly the most important statistic to measure. The first thing I do every time I turn on my computer is check my email. I don't really care that I can get to a windows splash screen in under a minute because the computer is basically unusable at that point.
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No reason why anyone's computer should take more than 1 minute to get to what you want. Check in your taskbar for starters. Anything that isn't part of windows or your antivirus - sift through the settings and disable "run on start up" or "start automatically" or whatever.

In the future make sure you don't let programs set themselves to run on startup. Doing those two things should go a long way toward fixing the issue.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just curious about who besides me has actually timed their boot process. It's easy enough to say it seems like your PC boots quick, but I suspect that the stopwatch will tell a different story.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windows has always taken longer to load than Mac OS...and the only time i've found my Windows machine to be near as fast as my Mac is when i've just reinstalled Windows. A few months later after i've downloaded and updated the software and apps that i typically use, the Windows machine takes a huge drop in boot up speed.

And I call BS on the comment about FF taking less time than IE. IE is a big memory gobbling app that takes longer than FF to render pages, and up to IE7 is still much slower than FF.
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EuroFunk



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: jobless in Busan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good maintenance should be able to fix a lot of slowdown problems. With affordable dual cores and other pieces of hardware, there should be little to no reason for a computer to take less than a minute to boot (maybe if you had A LOT of programs installed)....

the hibernate function works wonders as well.
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