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mindmetoo
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
The Christian Children's Fund turns down $17'000 because the money was partly raised through selling Dungeons and Dragons stuff:
http://www.giantitp.com/index.html
Apparently Gygax himself often made donations to the fund and now they've chosen to spurn his memory. |
Ha I was just about to post that. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| tomato wrote: |
| CentralCali is a Mormon, which is why he is sticking up for the Mormons. |
That's one reason. The other reason is to point out a simple fact, which is constantly being ignored in this thread: the Mormons are not the outfit involved in the OP. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
-Mohammed Ghandi |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: |
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I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
-Mohammed Ghandi |
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One reason I kind of like mainline Mormons. The ones I met are the most christian. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
-Mohammed Ghandi |
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mindmetoo
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http://tinyurl.com/badchristians
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Taking in girls and women aged 16 to 28, Mercy Ministries claims to offer residents support from "psychologists, general practitioners, dietitians, social workers, [and] career counsellers". These claims are made on its website, and the programs are promoted through Gloria Jean's cafes throughout Australia.
But these former residents say no medical or psychological services were provided - just an occasional, monitored trip to a GP, where the consultation takes place in the presence of a Mercy Ministries staff member or volunteer.
Instead, the program is focused on prayer, Christian counselling and expelling demons from in and around the young women, who say they begged Mercy Ministries to let them get medical help for the conditions they were suffering, which included bipolar disorder, anxiety disorders and anorexia. |
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mindmetoo
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/3407882/Child-witches-of-Nigeria-seek-refuge.html
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'Child-witches' of Nigeria seek refuge
The devil's children are "identified" by powerful religious leaders at extremist churches where Christianity and traditional beliefs have combined to produce a deep-rooted belief in, and fear of, witchcraft. The priests spread the message that child-witches bring destruction, disease and death to their families. And they say that, once possessed, children can cast spells and contaminate others. |
I need to point out fiveeagles believes in witches in africa, helping reinforce this heinous crime. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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I admit that the Mormon leader has a point about asking a church to modify its beliefs.
I think it's nobody else's business if two people want to have a same-sex marriage, but I think it is wrong for the state to force a church to hold same-sex marriage ceremonies. If I understand the recent news item correctly, that is what the state is trying to force the Mormon church to do.
Any of the rest of you have any feelings on that? |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I think it's nobody else's business if two people want to have a same-sex marriage, but I think it is wrong for the state to force a church to hold same-sex marriage ceremonies. If I understand the recent news item correctly, that is what the state is trying to force the Mormon church to do.
Any of the rest of you have any feelings on that? |
If I recall, Canada's same sex legislation is about that exactly. Churches don't have to marry same sex couples and are not libel if they refuse. Oddly, churches fought against this legislation. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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What did they fight for?
Did they want it mandated for all churches or forbidden for all churches? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| tomato wrote: |
I admit that the Mormon leader has a point about asking a church to modify its beliefs.
I think it's nobody else's business if two people want to have a same-sex marriage, but I think it is wrong for the state to force a church to hold same-sex marriage ceremonies. If I understand the recent news item correctly, that is what the state is trying to force the Mormon church to do.
Any of the rest of you have any feelings on that? |
Nobody's trying to force any church or other religious group to carry out a marriage contrary to that religious group's requirements. The issue in California is that a majority of those voting passed a proposition to amend the state's constitution to prohibit same-sex marriage. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| tomato wrote: |
What did they fight for?
Did they want it mandated for all churches or forbidden for all churches? |
Well, churches are largely "I want my cake and eat it too" types. The courts struck down laws about m/f marriage. When there's no law, it's legal in Canada. So gays could marry no problem. The government decided to introduce legislation that sought to protect churches from being sued under human rights legislation. But since it didn't ban gay marriage (because like the courts found it unconstitutional) the churches fought the legislation.
Geez. |
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Underwaterbob
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Underwaterbob
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