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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Attractive father=pretty daughter but ugly son Reply with quote

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3279653/Attractive-fathers-do-not-pass-their-looks-on-to-sons.html


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Attractive fathers do not pass their looks on to sons


Attractive fathers do not pass their looks on to their sons but they will hand their good looks down to their daughters, research shows.


Psychologists have found that while both parents influence the attractiveness of their daughters, male attractiveness is not inherited.

Handsome men with masculine looks are likely to pass on masculine features, but not facial attractiveness.

Prof David Perrett and Prof Elisabeth Cornwell, of the University of St Andrews, also said that a mother's beauty made no difference to the attractiveness of her sons as adults.

The theory suggests it is not unusual for attractive parents to produce a beautiful daughter while failing to pass on the same good looks to a son.

While many celebrity mothers produce stunning daughters - such as Goldie Hawn and her daughter Kate Hudson or Jerry Hall and her daughter Georgia - the same is not necessarily true of celebrity fathers.

Sean Stewart, the son of Rod Stewart and his first wife Alana, would probably be judged less attractive than his model sister Kimberly.

Prof Perrett said it has previously been suggested that a woman could increase her own reproductive success by choosing a "sexy" mate whose genes would be passed on to male offspring, making them irresistible to the next generation.

But the new study, published in the current edition of the journal Animal Behaviour, contradicts the theory.

He said: "We checked to see if male and female facial traits are inherited. For the male line, we find that facial masculinity conforms to the rule 'like father - like son'. Masculine dads have masculine sons.

"But we did not find any evidence that facial attractiveness is passed from father to son.

"We are perplexed as to why we did not find any evidence for the inheritance of attractiveness in males, through either the female or male parent.

"The answer may be because women vary considerably in the extent to which they find masculinity attractive.

"We know that attractive feminine women show a strong preference for masculine male faces for long-term partners."

The researchers studied the family photo albums of students, collecting images of over 100 females and 100 males and their respective biological parents taken over several years.

The photos of each student, father and mother were rated separately for attractiveness, and for femininity/masculinity.

They found evidence that attractiveness passed from both father and mother to daughter, and also that attractive fathers were more likely to produce attractive, feminine daughters, whether the mother was attractive or not.

Earlier research in America found that attractive parents were 26 per cent more likely to have a daughter than a son as their first child - a statistic apparently borne out by Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's first child.

In that study the researches concluded that "beautiful parents have more daughters than ugly parents".
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of a strange study since what passes for beautiful and ugly tends to change over time. How do you quantify beauty?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Attractive father=pretty daughter but ugly son Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:

Psychologists have found


Isn't this a job for geneticists?
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EzeWong



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting topic

Poorly supported.

So much is subjective and doesn't have accurate metrics. In addition, to get an accurate result this study would have to survey at least a pool of 1000 people from different locations, ethnicities , etc.

It's just a theory... One I don't believe either. Sometimes genetics seems appears to be a total random roll of the dice. Look at brad pitt, wentwork miller, Lee Hyori, etc. Their family is horrid looking compared to them. I don't believe there is any solid reasoning at this point to believe about the inheritance of looks.

I have for a long time been interested in the origin of beauty and how it relates to genetics. Generally, beautiful people have ok to good looking children... and in my personal beleif this is ONLY if some of the facial traits or dominant, the health of the baby, factors affecting them in the womb, and enviroment.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a photo of Lee Hyorhi's mom when she was young, and she's just a tiny little dark-skinned farmgirl thing with a typical small nose. A little cute by Western standards, perhaps looks like a thai mom, but not pretty by Korean standards nowadays for sure. Wonder what her father looked like?

In any case, I think she came from a nice family. She's very friendly and personable, considering she's hounded for being such a superstar.

My brother and his wife had a baby, and it's just freakin' huge. I find it kind of funny, really. Neither my brother or his wife are small people (although my brother isn't really fat, save for a small early 30's beer belly). Their baby, though... long and heavy. My brother jokes that he'll be a lineman. Maybe.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Attractive father=pretty daughter but ugly son Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
bassexpander wrote:

Psychologists have found


Isn't this a job for geneticists?


Eventually.
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a stupid article. So it's up to them who is beautiful and who isn't? These 'psychologists' need to get a life + new job.
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cheeseface



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the most beautiful girls I've ever dated have had really ugly fathers.
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like my daughter.

cheeseface wrote:
Some of the most beautiful girls I've ever dated have had really ugly fathers.
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Faunaki



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the article but really have no idea what is the actual point was. It seemed that a son's attractiveness is neither from his mother or father? What the hell?

And Goldie Hawn's daughter is not attractive.
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browneyedgirl



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
Kind of a strange study since what passes for beautiful and ugly tends to change over time. How do you quantify beauty?


The golden ratio

http://www.intmath.com/Numbers/mathOfBeauty.php
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is interesting if you are up on the literature. The sexy sons hypothesis takes another knock.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughter looks exactly like me - not an ounce of her father can be found on her face (well ok, may be a bit) and everyone says she is pretty..

What does that say about this theory?
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NoExplode



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appears to be a British study. How did they even get a sample size large enough to do the study?
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skconqueror



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
My daughter looks exactly like me - not an ounce of her father can be found on her face (well ok, may be a bit) and everyone says she is pretty..

What does that say about this theory?


That people lie?
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