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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: Obama's world: Malcolm X or MLK |
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Two famous black men; one found glory and the other found shame. One who has the reverence of presidents, world leaders and the hearts of the free world while the other has become lost in the resonnance of other angry leaders. Like two purebreds racing through history, both were kings at the same time and were fighting for change. One brought truth and justice through peace, while the other brought violence and hate through nationalism. Which one will Barak Obama use: peace or nationalism? Over the last two years the world has had the chance to learn more about Obama and what type of man he will be. Being black has only added to the excitement of the presidential race and to the fact that we are watching history be made. Obama has not only gone on to win the approval of the secular media and Hollywood, but of many other nations and people. Many throughout the world would love to see Obama become the president and bring change into the world. And who wouldn�t, a man of such brilliance and intellect. Shouldn�t he garner the adoration and praise of the world, especially with Oprah, Al Gore, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Colin Powel and a throng of other greats endorsing his candidacy? Will Obama fulfil the dreams of MLK and become the best man for the job or does he stand for something more similar to Malcolm X? Judging from his past we can see how Obama will stand on important issues and how he will affect the world, by looking at his attitudes toward socialism, racism and justice.
MLK rejects capitalism and communism and instead America should be �born again�. Born again into the kingdom of God. Does Obama say we should be born again or that we should spread the wealth similar to Karl Marx? Wikipedia uses Marx to define what socialism is. �Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution which represents the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.� We know that Obama would like to spread the wealth from Joe the Plumber to Bob the slacker. He has already stated that he would like to destroy the coal industry if they don�t follow his idea of clean coal. What other ideals and freedoms would Obama fight for? There has been no other candidate for president has had more problematic associations. Barack Obama's first major financial backer was Antoin "Tony" Rezko, currently awaiting sentencing on corruption charges. For nearly 20 years Mr. Obama attended services where the Rev. Jeremiah Wright preached hatred of the United States, and of white people. The radical group ACORN has been committing voter registration fraud on a massive scale. Mr. Obama taught classes for ACORN organizers, and represented the group in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois. The most significant managerial responsibility Barack Obama has ever had was as chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a project conceived of by unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Lets learn more about each of these associations; Bill Ayers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIJIyMyqAwQ&feature=related,
Jeremiah Wright http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk&feature=related,
Khalidi http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/10/obama-khalidi-tape-blogger-obtains-quotes-from-hidden-video/
and Rezko http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article. What does Obama have in common with such an extreme element of America�s society? Maybe most of these relationships are based upon reaching out with the gospel. Is Obama trying to be like MLK and reach out to a segment of society that has been shunned by people or is he more like Malcolm X and learning from mentors that come from the same camp? Now, it would be easy to dismiss these relationships if they were short or few, but instead it seems to be the norm and previous speeches are quite similar to these people. Listen how closely Obama and Ayers seem to be on some of the more important issues of our dayhttp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0xBlTdsnOh8 . Incidentally or by design, most of the press in America is leaning towards a socialistic society rather than capitalism and free markets. In increasing frequency they are giving Obama a free pass on everything and openly routing for his victory. Even with the media on his side, he shuts them out of the more important functions such as his events with Hollywood stars and other large coorporate meetings. In Orwellian fashion, the Press covering everything in a positive spin and posting his image everywhere and on every high place. Even with negative news, they are deciding on what to reveal. They have held back with the recorded tape of Khalidi and haven�t allowed that to be released. With Obama practically buying the election and using capitalism to swamp McCain in ads the question is forming, �What does he have to hide from the public and why isn�t he giving us the truth?�
Racism has long been the diving line between most of the nations of the world. Many wars and genocides have been based upon this evil. America has not been spared from this insidious disease and finds itself trying to elect its first black president in the midst of incredible bigotry. As exciting as electing a new black president may be, we find that Barak Obama�s pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and his version of the gospel is full of racism towards white people. "Black theology refuses to accept a god who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against the white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of the Black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community...." A version of the gospel that sounds similarly close to Malcolm X rather than that of MLK. Would MLK have stayed in a church that would have asked God to curse America for its evil and wickedness? Would MLK�s church focus soley on the black community rather than whole communities? Of course not, but Barak doesn�t seem to have had a problem with this. He counts Wright as a member of his family and as one of his top senior spiritual adviser. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=928_TLwSl1I Interesting enough, once this revelation was made clear to the public, Barak Obama quickly distanced himself from his pastor of twenty years, but only when it was politically expedient. If Barak Obama is following in the steps of MLK, what version is he following? Maybe Obama is following Oprah�s version of the gospel? A version in which all paths lead to heaven. Not truth, but is very popular among the lost.
MLK once stated that an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. If Obama can�t support the sanctity of life then how is expected to stand for justice in the world? In the words of Mother Teresa �"I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? ...... Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion.� Not only does Obama not support the sanctity of life but doesn�t even defend against infanticide. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRpIf2F9NA Some people argue that he voted against the bill. If that is true then why is infanticide still happening in Illinois? If Obama is a man of change and walks in the spirit of MLK; couldn�t he have changed this atrocious and barbaric procedure? Obama knows a lot on social issues important to Hollywood and the secular news, but doesn�t seem to care about the social issues important to MLK. Why hasn�t Obama looked after the innocent of this nation when MLK would have?
Obama has revealed to the world what an amazing orator he is and his ability to capture an audience with his carefully crafted words. Audiences have swooned as he has driven home some of the most important speeches in the history of mankind. He has spoken with unusual clairvoyance on the economy, health care, education, energy and national security. Regardless of your political persuasion and religious preference, Obama has been able to capture the imaginations and hope of the public at large including the church. But is he the man to fulfill the vision of MLK and the hopes and dreams of America? Or is he the man to continue in the shadows of Malcolm X allowing for the descent of humanity into nationalism? Is Barak Obama the same as Malcolm X, no he is not. Barak Obama is not a Muslim and isn�t tolerant of the many issues of Islam. Unfortunately, Barak Obama is more like the King of Jordan and has a more tolerant view of the world. Yes, Jesus is his savior, but as Oprah believes he also believes that there are many ways to Christ. Obama is the richer version of Tupac and talks better than any other politician ever before. Malcolm X is only the platform to which the future of Barak beckons. What he is forming, we don�t know, the press hasn�t let us in. However, his record has and the vision of Barak isn�t the one of MLK's truth and freedom.
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Tater
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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So, in other words, God told you that we should be afraid of Barack Obama? |
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bangbayed

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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There's five minutes of my life I'm not getting back.
MLK or Malcom X? WTF is that about? When Bush was elected, did you ask yourself if he would be Lincoln or Stalin? Or did you just want a chance to regurgitate all the anti-Obama rhetoric that's been debated and discounted on other threads? |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi

Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Who are you trying to convince by posting these huge rants about Obama on an ESL board....of which not all people are Americans anyway..
Or are you just finding this crap somewhere and using the old CTRL+C and CTRL+V |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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bangbayed wrote: |
There's five minutes of my life I'm not getting back.
MLK or Malcom X? WTF is that about? When Bush was elected, did you ask yourself if he would be Lincoln or Stalin? Or did you just want a chance to regurgitate all the anti-Obama rhetoric that's been debated and discounted on other threads? |
Two black men, but two dichotomies. One good, one evil. Obviously beyond your understanding, but hey that's ok. Keep trying to swim one day you might get it.  |
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Tater
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wow.
Malcolm was "evil?" Or was it King, Jr. who was "evil?"
And, don't you think it a little narrow-minded trying to put Obama in one of the two categories simply because he is half black? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Hey, 3titmice,
According to you, Obama sank under the shame and scandal of the abortion thing a while back. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: |
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OP, what color is the sky in your world? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm surprised five eagles even replied once.
He starts these threads then disappears without responding to anyone's questions or arguments. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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fiveeagles wrote: |
bangbayed wrote: |
There's five minutes of my life I'm not getting back.
MLK or Malcom X? WTF is that about? When Bush was elected, did you ask yourself if he would be Lincoln or Stalin? Or did you just want a chance to regurgitate all the anti-Obama rhetoric that's been debated and discounted on other threads? |
Two black men, but two dichotomies. One good, one evil. Obviously beyond your understanding, but hey that's ok. Keep trying to swim one day you might get it.  |
Two men, and a dichotomy. One good, one evil. Obviously beyond your understanding, but hey that's ok because come Tuesday...
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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fiveeagles wrote: |
Two black men, but two dichotomies. One good, one evil. Obviously beyond your understanding, but hey that's ok. Keep trying to swim one day you might get it.  |
Obama doesn't need to swim. He can walk on water.
Oh, and Obama is mixed, so it would be better to compare him to the dichotomies of Halle Berry and Denise Huxtable. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
I'm surprised five eagles even replied once.
He starts these threads then disappears without responding to anyone's questions or arguments. |
He takes pleasure in casting stones. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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He takes pleasure in casting stones. |
Although in his world, I believe it is called 'casting pearls before swine'.  |
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Pink Freud
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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OK, so who dosed the sacramental wine with that playground acid again?
Fivebeagles---some vitamin B12 and soothing music will see you through, brother.
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Isn't it sad when people lie?
Almost as sad as when people buy into ridiculous propaganda. |
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