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Korussian · Joined: 15 Sep 2007

I had a demo lesson last week, sprung on me with just a few days to prep.

I stayed till 7pm and 11pm on two days to finish prep for it, whereas my 8 hours end at 4:30pm. It was actually a bit more than that, so in total the school accepts that I'm owed 10 hours of overtime (I asked for 9).

I'm with GEPIK, and expected the overtime rate to be 20,000 won per hour, but of course that's for teaching hours.

My co-teacher says he called the head GEPIK native speaker in-charge guy (guy? - I thought it was Dain Bae), and was told the rate should be 7,725won per hour.

Question: How much should I be paid by my high school in Gyeonggi province for staying after work to prep a demo lesson for 10 hours?

antoniothegreat · Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong

wow, you know, honestly, i have never even heard of someone getting overtime for just prep. i know Kteachers get extra for staying late to oversee students, but not just for prep, i thought that was just part of the job.

cruisemonkey · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject:

Count your blessings. EPIK's 'overtime' rate is W6000 per hour!

Horangi Munshin · Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan

That sucks!

You know for next time that just like everything in life. Do the best you can with the time allotted.

lohengrin · Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Location: Loompaland

I'm with GEPIK, similar sitaution. Masses of overtime prepping for the demo lesson. The school paid for dinner the evening after the demo lesson. Thats it, not one won extra pay.

Ukon · Joined: 29 Jan 2008

There's a demo lesson....I'm SMOE and I don't remember any demo lesson....

Korussian · Joined: 15 Sep 2007

Thank you all for your responses!

It sucks that EPIK's overtime rate is even lower than GEPIK's!

I completely agree that prep is normally part of the job, and I always get it done in the regular time allotted.

In this case, I was told to start planning the demo Lesson on Monday night, and it took place on Wednesday afternoon. I was obviously more than willing to forget about any extra pay for working till 7pm on Monday, but when I worked a 14.5 hour day the next day, I decided to ask about it.

There's nothing in my GEPIK contract, as far as I can see, that comments on non-teaching overtime hours. Didn't I read somewhere that Korean National labor law requires overtime to be paid out at a minimum of 120% of the regular hourly wage? That would be around double the 7,725 won they're willing to pay me per hour.

Thank you again for sharing your experience - it makes me feel more comfortable just accepting what they're willing to offer and moving on with it.

call_the_shots · Joined: 10 Oct 2008

cruisemonkey · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject:

The Labor Standards Act states "An employer shall additionally pay fifty percent or more of the ordinary wages for extended work...", i.e. at least time-and-a-half for 'overtime' (more than: eight hours per day, or fourty hours per week).

If anyone took it to the Labor Board they'd win because these public school contracts don't meet the minimum required under law. However, they know no one will (it's not worth the hassle).

So... if it can't be done in your eight hours per day, don't do it!

itstiff · Joined: 16 Oct 2008

I think you're lucky for getting any money for just OT prep work.

I work for GEPIK too and something is a bit confusing to me is that .. I'm only suppose to have 8 hour days, but the past two weeks we've been doing an American Culture class and the class doesn't get out till 4:50/5PM. So I work 8 1/2 hours, should I say something? Under my contract I only get OT if I TEACH more then 22 hours, I'm only at 18 right now.

cruisemonkey · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject:

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Rusty Shackleford · Joined: 08 May 2008

Why did you spend that much time on it? This happened to me, except I had 20 hours till the class started. I just copy and pasted some crap off google and did the class I was going to do anyway.

Not my fault you didn't have the decency or fore though to give me 5 minutes notice.

Korussian · Joined: 15 Sep 2007

Rusty Shackleford · Joined: 08 May 2008

^^^
That make sense. I just got the heads up from my co-teach at my other school about demo lesson in December. Needless to say, she will get a thoughtful, meticulously constructed lesson plan.

Still, does anyone except for co-teach even read them? I would've liked to have seen the plans from the FT before me but none appear to exist.