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rusty1983
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| I'm curious if it was a sharia court or a "tribal" court that carried out this disgrace? If it's the latter, then blaming a system of jurisprudence that was ignored doesn't make sense. |
Most likely it is just the way it goes down in one of the world's most f-ed up countries. Utterly sickening but you cannot paint all Muslims with this brush. |
I'm not painting anybody with any brush whatsoever. I asked if it really were a Sharia court that ordered the stoning. If it had been another type of court, then it's ridiculous to blame Sharia courts for something they weren't even involved in.
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| Did anyone see that there have been Sharia Courts set up in the UK? I was shocked but you won't see people getting stoned to death etc. |
That's because they're essentially arbitration courts, not criminal courts. |
As far as I know Sharia law isnt set in stone so itll get interpreted differently as you travel on, a bit like the Quran then really. I know alot of muslim people in the UK and there's absolutely no way they'd back actions such as this.
Didnt mean to imply that YOU were making those implications at all, sorry about that. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| This is why george Bush should have another four years. Rid the world of Islam |
Yeah, 'cuz as we all know, Islamicist influence in Iraq has been stopped dead in its tracks since the Baath got turfed. |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| This is why george Bush should have another four years. Rid the world of Islam |
Yeah, 'cuz as we all know, Islamicist influence in Iraq has been stopped dead in its tracks since the Baath got turfed. |
michael moore loser |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Actually, this is not Islamic per se. They didn't follow Islamic jurisprudence. Yes, you can literally stone someone if you follow the religion literally, but, even in that case, you must have witnesses to prove that she had consensual sex with those men. She claimed she was raped. The courts can't prove it was consensual, so they violated their own religion's law. I am not saying that to defend the religion of Islam, because I don't believe in stoning or what have you, and the Islamists need to go.
Also, if she were actually 13 years old, that's not an adult we're talking about that and that would also make the sentence questionable from a religious standpoint. Islam does teach that actions committed, that are of a sinful nature, are to be disregarded when they were done at a young age. Of course, Somalia is a place with high illiteracy, extreme poverty, and ignorance along with tribal rivalries.
I think what happened was just horrible, and stoning is quite brutal.
I am not sure who came up with that idea in the Old Testament, but it sure seems like a Babylonian type punishment. |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Actually, this is not Islamic per se. They didn't follow Islamic jurisprudence. Yes, you can literally stone someone if you follow the religion literally, but, even in that case, you must have witnesses to prove that she had consensual sex with those men. She claimed she was raped. The courts can't prove it was consensual, so they violated their own religion's law. I am not saying that to defend the religion of Islam, because I don't believe in stoning or what have you, and the Islamists need to go.
Also, if she were actually 13 years old, that's not an adult we're talking about that and that would also make the sentence questionable from a religious standpoint. Islam does teach that actions committed, that are of a sinful nature, are to be disregarded when they were done at a young age. Of course, Somalia is a place with high illiteracy, extreme poverty, and ignorance along with tribal rivalries.
I think what happened was just horrible, and stoning is quite brutal.
I am not sure who came up with that idea in the Old Testament, but it sure seems like a Babylonian type punishment. |
pointless gabble |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| This is why george Bush should have another four years. Rid the world of Islam |
Yeah, 'cuz as we all know, Islamicist influence in Iraq has been stopped dead in its tracks since the Baath got turfed. |
And let's not forget that Bush specifically stated that the US is not at war with Islam. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
Actually, this is not Islamic per se. They didn't follow Islamic jurisprudence. Yes, you can literally stone someone if you follow the religion literally, but, even in that case, you must have witnesses to prove that she had consensual sex with those men. She claimed she was raped. The courts can't prove it was consensual, so they violated their own religion's law. I am not saying that to defend the religion of Islam, because I don't believe in stoning or what have you, and the Islamists need to go.
Also, if she were actually 13 years old, that's not an adult we're talking about that and that would also make the sentence questionable from a religious standpoint. Islam does teach that actions committed, that are of a sinful nature, are to be disregarded when they were done at a young age. Of course, Somalia is a place with high illiteracy, extreme poverty, and ignorance along with tribal rivalries.
I think what happened was just horrible, and stoning is quite brutal.
I am not sure who came up with that idea in the Old Testament, but it sure seems like a Babylonian type punishment. |
pointless gabble |
Did you mean Babble or maybe Babyl? |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| This is why george Bush should have another four years. Rid the world of Islam |
Yeah, 'cuz as we all know, Islamicist influence in Iraq has been stopped dead in its tracks since the Baath got turfed. |
And let's not forget that Bush specifically stated that the US is not at war with Islam. |
Islam is the white elephant and bush has a gun |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Jandar wrote: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
Actually, this is not Islamic per se. They didn't follow Islamic jurisprudence. Yes, you can literally stone someone if you follow the religion literally, but, even in that case, you must have witnesses to prove that she had consensual sex with those men. She claimed she was raped. The courts can't prove it was consensual, so they violated their own religion's law. I am not saying that to defend the religion of Islam, because I don't believe in stoning or what have you, and the Islamists need to go.
Also, if she were actually 13 years old, that's not an adult we're talking about that and that would also make the sentence questionable from a religious standpoint. Islam does teach that actions committed, that are of a sinful nature, are to be disregarded when they were done at a young age. Of course, Somalia is a place with high illiteracy, extreme poverty, and ignorance along with tribal rivalries.
I think what happened was just horrible, and stoning is quite brutal.
I am not sure who came up with that idea in the Old Testament, but it sure seems like a Babylonian type punishment. |
pointless gabble |
Did you mean Babble or maybe Babyl? |
eithers good. i just cant stomach anymore of this guy writing war and peace, hes a tool |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| head-in-the-clouds wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
Actually, this is not Islamic per se. They didn't follow Islamic jurisprudence. Yes, you can literally stone someone if you follow the religion literally, but, even in that case, you must have witnesses to prove that she had consensual sex with those men. She claimed she was raped. The courts can't prove it was consensual, so they violated their own religion's law. I am not saying that to defend the religion of Islam, because I don't believe in stoning or what have you, and the Islamists need to go.
Also, if she were actually 13 years old, that's not an adult we're talking about that and that would also make the sentence questionable from a religious standpoint. Islam does teach that actions committed, that are of a sinful nature, are to be disregarded when they were done at a young age. Of course, Somalia is a place with high illiteracy, extreme poverty, and ignorance along with tribal rivalries.
I think what happened was just horrible, and stoning is quite brutal.
I am not sure who came up with that idea in the Old Testament, but it sure seems like a Babylonian type punishment. |
pointless gabble |
That's a good description, if applied to your own insipid posts. From this moment forth, I shall think of you as "The Gabbler." |
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