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Public School no co-teacher?
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ i actually recently filled out a survey on my city's english program, and mentioned exactly that: send all the korean and foreign english teachers to a workshop on what is expected of them.
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ESL Milk "Everyday



Joined: 12 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have one now, and I'm glad for it, because a bad co-teacher is worse than useless. A good one is golden, though.

Also, I don't think it's legal for the NT to be in the class alone with the kids.
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nizpaz



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Bleep* me! There must be something in the water. This very day I've been asked to do the same thing.

I'm looking at it as a chance to teach something beyond the mind numbing curriculum, even though it's going to be extra work for me.
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are all you tards from the planet ingnorance? Nobody cares what you do! The schools don't care because they don't want you there in the first place. It doesn't matter if you spend 20 hours on a lesson or show up drunk and dance like a flying monkey. As long as you show up and do something, anything, don't cause problems and bow to the proper people when you should, no one gives a rat's ass what you do.

Just don't cause problems, keep a low profile, and enjoy the easiest job you will ever have in your life.

Planning is for chumps. The good students will learn and the bad won't. None of your magical game plans will do any good. If they want to speak and learn then talk to them. If they want to act like a bunch of wild boars, pick up a newspaper, give them a book to read and just chill. Or better yet, like a few of the previous posters said, put in a movie.

Your Korean co-teachers care as much about you and your teaching as they do about whether or not their lunch will have the new Kimchee or old.

As long as there's a warm body in there giving them a break, it's all good.

Z
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zulethe wrote:
Are all you tards from the planet ingnorance? Nobody cares what you do! The schools don't care because they don't want you there in the first place. It doesn't matter if you spend 20 hours on a lesson or show up drunk and dance like a flying monkey. As long as you show up and do something, anything, don't cause problems and bow to the proper people when you should, no one gives a rat's ass what you do.

Just don't cause problems, keep a low profile, and enjoy the easiest job you will ever have in your life.

Planning is for chumps. The good students will learn and the bad won't. None of your magical game plans will do any good. If they want to speak and learn then talk to them. If they want to act like a bunch of wild boars, pick up a newspaper, give them a book to read and just chill. Or better yet, like a few of the previous posters said, put in a movie.

Your Korean co-teachers care as much about you and your teaching as they do about whether or not their lunch will have the new Kimchee or old.

As long as there's a warm body in there giving them a break, it's all good.

Z


Unfortunately there's a lot of truth to this post. However that does not mean you have to go into apathy mode. I've had quite a lot of success with the games from duebels site. However for that to work you'll have to have a laptop with internet connections.
If you do the bare minimum I doubt you'll get fired or in trouble. However it will come to haunt you when you least expect it.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really miss the classes I had last year where I had no co-teacher.

I still had to use the textbook, but I was free to add things in or improvise as I saw fit.

It's good to have their classroom teacher hang around though, keeps the kids from going hog-wild.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zulethe wrote:
Are all you tards from the planet ingnorance? Nobody cares what you do! The schools don't care because they don't want you there in the first place. It doesn't matter if you spend 20 hours on a lesson or show up drunk and dance like a flying monkey. As long as you show up and do something, anything, don't cause problems and bow to the proper people when you should, no one gives a rat's ass what you do.

Just don't cause problems, keep a low profile, and enjoy the easiest job you will ever have in your life.

Planning is for chumps. The good students will learn and the bad won't. None of your magical game plans will do any good. If they want to speak and learn then talk to them. If they want to act like a bunch of wild boars, pick up a newspaper, give them a book to read and just chill. Or better yet, like a few of the previous posters said, put in a movie.

Your Korean co-teachers care as much about you and your teaching as they do about whether or not their lunch will have the new Kimchee or old.

As long as there's a warm body in there giving them a break, it's all good.

Z


speak for yourself, some schools actually do care what you do, and will constantly give little, annoying suggestions, but do absolutely nothing to help.

the textbook may be bad, but i find it better than having to create all your lesson plans for each grade from scratch.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I didn't have co-teachers. I'd much rather have control of my own class. In some of my classes, the Korean teachers teach half the class in Korean or in Konglish and use me as a sort of sideshow. After three years of teaching my own classes in a hogwan, I don't really feel the need to have a co-teacher other than as a means of controlling much bigger classes than what I am used to.

To those who think it is illegal not to have a Korean teacher in the classroom....where are you getting that from? There are foreign teachers alone in classrooms in just about every hogwan in Korea. Do you think that's illegal too?
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
It might be better...do you really want a co-teacher interefering with what you are teaching? I'd rather teach alone than with my witch of a co-teacher.


That is what I was thinking. I had no idea that this co-teacher thing was the norm. I would never want to be in that situation. I like the freedom to do what I want, which is also what the students need.
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julesk



Joined: 13 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is illegal to not have a Korean teacher in the classroom, because we are not official, licensed teachers in Korea. There must be a licensed teacher in all classes at all times. I know that this is the rule for public schools, but maybe it is different for hogwans.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NathanKSimpson wrote:
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My public school wants me to teach without a co-teacher for 2 weeks, my co-teacher is being reassigned temproarily. Is this legal?


Yes, this is illegal as you aren't certified to teach in Korea (at public schools anyway), which is why you need a Korean teacher present in the classroom at all times. Furthermore, your title is technically "Assistant English Teacher."

I have known some teachers that have taught without a Korean co-teacher. If anything bad happens, then you will be blamed for breaking the law and it could cost you a job. Also, students will probably complain if you discipline them but won't if a Korean teacher does.

Usually, schools have substitute teachers when a teacher is on leave. It sounds as though your school is trying to save some money by breaking the law.
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Rob'sdad



Joined: 12 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: Public School no co-teacher? Reply with quote

nathanksimpson wrote:
My public school wants me to teach without a co-teacher for 2 weeks, my co-teacher is being reassigned temproarily. Is this legal?


Good
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